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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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additional

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disk has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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welcome fade to black

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bespoke radio

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for the

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yeah man how you doing today's monday

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august 8th

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states hither and

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tether to and fro back and forth up and

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far and near

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this is fade to black for kj cr the game

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changer and nx networks

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing it's

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it's all duke sullivan's fault it's

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squatch week

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and tonight we have very special guest

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that's right kicking off squatch week on

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fade to black i'm doing a two and a half

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hour deep dive tonight into bigfoot got

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almost 100 images and stuff to present

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duke sullivan

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right here of world bigfoot radio

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he's joining us for night

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two that's right

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and then wednesday night first time

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guest william lundsford is with us

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for night

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it's squatch week

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that's right with open lines all night

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uh duke sullivan and that was just uh

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there's a noise gate i always have a

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noise skate on and right now i have a

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that is normally shut off

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uh right now but i forgot to shut it off

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so you're gonna have to deal with that

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and uh really that's that's it

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is updated everything is there

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it's you pars and upars is back and uh

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okay so that's coming up and then in

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oh what a day what a day in the news

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olivia newton-john

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the australian singer is one of the

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california she was 73 years old she had

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huge hits huge the biggest

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of hits like you're the one that i want

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and summer nights with john travolta her

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ballad hopelessly devoted to you

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that melted the hearts of men all around

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the world and of course my personal

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all right physicists don't have a sense

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of humor all right space force

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are you ready back in the news

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space force ken priest just posted

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demonstration using

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quadruped unmanned group ground vehicles

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otherwise known as qugvs

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[Music]

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to you and i

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robot dogs

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for security patrols and other

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repetitive tasks the demonstration used

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at least two vision 60q ugvs

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built to buy ghost robotics and it took

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place at cape canaveral space 4 station

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on july 27 and 28th

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according to a statement from the

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department of defense

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space launch delta 45 will use the robot

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dogs for damage assessments and patrol

303
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to save significant man hours the unit

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is responsible for all space launch

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operations from kennedy space center

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and cape

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canaveral and they look nasty

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they look like nasty robot dogs

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well park rangers have discovered

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another dead body

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on a beach at lake mead as the reservoir

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continues to shrink

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an emergency call reported the remains

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to rangers at 11 15 a.m this past

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saturday august 6th

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on swim beach once again park rangers

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and a las vegas metropolitan police

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department dive team

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recovered the remains which were taken

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to the clark county medical examiner

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for examination

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no other no other word on this

323
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that's four

324
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four in lake mead can you imagine you're

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swimming on a beach

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swim beach

327
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lake mead and there are dead

328
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bodies in the water

329
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man

330
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all right breaking news right before

331
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showtime the fbi has executed a search

332
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warrant

333
00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:02,880
did everything today at donald trump's

334
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mar-a-lago resort in palm beach florida

335
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as part of an investigation into the

336
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handling of presidential documents

337
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including classified documents that may

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have been brought there it is reported

339
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that at least 15 boxes of white house

340
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records were recovered

341
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from the resort including some

342
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that were classified

343
00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:29,679
there you go let's get this shocking on

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this day in history 1974

345
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in an evening televised addressed

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president richard m nixon announces his

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intention to become the first president

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in american history to resign

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just before noon the next day august 9th

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nixon officially ended his term as the

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37th president of the united states

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all right

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for april fool's day in 1998

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burger king announced the launch of

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the left-handed whopper

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that's right burger king said that the

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condiments of the burger will be rotated

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180 degrees

359
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thousands of people showed up the next

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day

361
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asking for the lefty whopper

362
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and that

363
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is your fader fact

364
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finally

365
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recognition we need to stand up we need

366
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to fight the power

367
00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:46,000
we need we need we need left-handed food

368
00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:47,440
man

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burger king

370
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stay strong

371
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,150
obviously you can see by the guitars

372
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behind me yeah that'd be funny if i was

373
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a lefty and had all right-handed guitars

374
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i do have uh i have a couple of lefty

375
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:10,640
pens though

376
00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:15,039
um i got these at office depot

377
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and uh they had a special

378
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special on these 10 pack lefty pens

379
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and so i bought a bunch to see if i

380
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could write with them

381
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with my right hand and i can

382
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it's weird it worked pretty good

383
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they do

384
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all right river moon wellness river moon

385
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coffee fade to black blend best coffee

386
00:20:42,710 --> 00:20:40,000
in the world links below

387
00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:42,720
banners on the website promo code f2b

388
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blend

389
00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:51,750
um

390
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,750
i broke my own rule can i

391
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,870
can i confess

392
00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:01,270
i'm going to confess to something

393
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:07,830
i happen to like

394
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:14,870
i just have to be honest i i don't want

395
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:18,000
to feel like i'm deceiving or not being

396
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:20,799
straight right i'll always be straight

397
00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:26,950
it's this

398
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:29,590
i like

399
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:34,240
starbucks white chocolate mocha creamer

400
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,880
you can buy it at the supermarket

401
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,080
yeah

402
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,840
i like it

403
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,679
and uh

404
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:43,280
uh

405
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:50,320
i i i i

406
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:54,400
i feel weird with any starbucks products

407
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,840
i do i i feel i feel weird about it

408
00:22:02,070 --> 00:21:59,679
right i don't buy the coffee i don't do

409
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:02,080
of course i don't but

410
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,840
but i like the white chocolate mocha

411
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,360
creamer

412
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:07,039
i do

413
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,200
imitate you can't

414
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,600
you can't you just you got so that's

415
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,600
what that is today

416
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,440
i mean it's a pretty good combination

417
00:22:22,470 --> 00:22:19,600
though with uh river moon coffees fade

418
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i gotta say

419
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:31,750
tonight the very special guest is me

420
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:34,159
all right i am going to do tonight

421
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:35,120
starting

422
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,200
the bottom of the hour i am going to do

423
00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:39,360
a two and a half hour deep dive into

424
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bigfoot

425
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,280
i've got close to 100 images and things

426
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:45,200
to present

427
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,720
uh i'm so excited about this and this is

428
00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:50,000
all

429
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:53,440
duke sullivan's fault um but uh it's

430
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,799
gonna be it's gonna be pretty cool

431
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:57,200
tonight i'm really going to enjoy

432
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,360
uh showing you everything and and again

433
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:02,960
and especially with the subject like

434
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:05,919
bigfoot just scratching the surface i've

435
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,240
lined up a two and a half hour

436
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,840
presentation

437
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:11,760
and i'm like but i didn't i didn't i

438
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:15,120
didn't i didn't i couldn't i didn't

439
00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,960
there's just not enough time

440
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:18,400
you know and

441
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,280
you know

442
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:23,039
organizing and and and looking through

443
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:24,400
and editing

444
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,720
75 80 90 images

445
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:31,520
it's it's it's a crazy amount of

446
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:32,960
information

447
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:35,360
and i just scratched the surface so

448
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:37,280
enjoy this tonight it's going to be a

449
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,559
lot of fun

450
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:40,640
tomorrow night right here it is duke

451
00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,960
sullivan of world bigfoot radio

452
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:44,960
for night two

453
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,960
of squatch week and then thursday night

454
00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:48,240
first time guest

455
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,520
william lundsford is with us for night

456
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:54,000
three thursdays another fader night with

457
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:57,760
open lines all night long all right

458
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:05,669
all right i saw these this couple i

459
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,640
forget what it was marriage counseling

460
00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,320
and um

461
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:12,080
it was in a movie or tv series or

462
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,360
something last week

463
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:15,200
and uh so they're sitting there older

464
00:24:20,149 --> 00:24:16,840
couple

465
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:20,159
and and she asked the wife okay so what

466
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:24,880
is it edith that bothers you about bob

467
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:28,480
she goes every time he takes a sip of

468
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:29,600
coffee

469
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,990
i about fell off the couch

470
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,640
oh man it was so funny i was just like

471
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,799
self-conscious after i got the laughter

472
00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:44,720
done i was like really is it

473
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:47,279
does that doesn't bother people like i

474
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,400
care

475
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,320
all right

476
00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:52,320
left-handed and proud of it is that you

477
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,559
cassandra are you left-handed or is that

478
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:56,720
madeline madeline's a lefty you're a

479
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:03,510
what do you do with a mouse

480
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,279
you mouse with your left hand and then

481
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:09,440
are you right cut it

482
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,240
wow

483
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:12,840
but i guess it doesn't matter it's

484
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,720
right

485
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,320
somebody help me out with that what do

486
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:18,320
lefties do

487
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:19,360
uh

488
00:25:23,269 --> 00:25:20,400
okay

489
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:23,279
yeah how do you imitate that burnt

490
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,799
rubber taste

491
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,200
all the same to me

492
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,760
big biscuits for bigfoot let me tell you

493
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:30,559
ken

494
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:34,320
like a dozen

495
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,919
dozen biscuits

496
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:37,440
and uh

497
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:38,559
can

498
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:40,720
i froze them

499
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,080
and i've been pulling one out a day

500
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,320
and your biscuits

501
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,679
my friend

502
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:49,840
are the best biscuits in the history of

503
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:51,120
the world

504
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:52,880
just letting you know

505
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,360
okay where am i at i'm out of time

506
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:01,600
um

507
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,350
i saw what may be

508
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,159
the most incredible sighting ever well

509
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:14,400
next to the beer can except for the beer

510
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,600
can the beer can was daylight

511
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:19,760
and and that was extraordinary that was

512
00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,120
that was the best ufo sighting in the

513
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:25,919
history of the world

514
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,880
nobody has had a better ufo sighting

515
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,279
than than that

516
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,520
it hasn't happened yet that was just

517
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:34,880
insane but

518
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:38,159
on saturday nights

519
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:41,679
oh man so i'm sitting up on my

520
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:44,480
second floor on the patio

521
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:47,360
binoculars night vision

522
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:50,720
scanning the skies now my house faces

523
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,679
exactly east-west north-south right it's

524
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,919
it's aligned perfectly so which is

525
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,200
really cool because you know what

526
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,120
direction everything's happening

527
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,880
because the orientation of the house you

528
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,799
don't have to worry about that so but i

529
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,279
am facing due north

530
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:07,120
and i'm scanning the sky like this and

531
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:09,919
i'm coming down right and normally i

532
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,720
stay up in the sky i don't i don't get

533
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,720
down too low into the horizon one it's

534
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:16,640
it's lit up you know closer to the

535
00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:17,919
ground you want to

536
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:20,159
keep the night vision facing up into the

537
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,880
blackness but but anyway so pull the

538
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,559
pull it down

539
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:25,919
and

540
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,240
i got to make this really quick

541
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:32,480
so i'm following this object and

542
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,480
and it comes down and i could see the

543
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:35,840
tree line

544
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,520
see the mountains in the background and

545
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,039
just above that

546
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,440
like like at this angle

547
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,760
i see a craft come in it's going this

548
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,000
way sat whatever it doesn't matter low

549
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,320
right and and then another one came by

550
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:52,480
i'm like oh starlink

551
00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:54,640
oh okay right that's that's what it's

552
00:27:58,310 --> 00:27:56,960
feeling like and then

553
00:27:59,269 --> 00:27:58,320
two came in

554
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:59,279
like this

555
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,840
but they were just

556
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,360
appearing like right there they weren't

557
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,520
coming in they were lighting up and

558
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:07,919
going this way and then

559
00:28:19,750 --> 00:28:15,990
just let me get to it five

560
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:19,760
five in a kind of like a bucket shape

561
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,760
like a backwards c

562
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:23,919
it was one two three

563
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,960
four

564
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,919
five

565
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:27,679
like three on the bottom and then it

566
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:33,190
and they're going like this across the

567
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:34,159
sky

568
00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,600
like that shape

569
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,360
like like that

570
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:39,440
like this

571
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,399
and

572
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:42,320
there was a tree in the way in my

573
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,760
backyard so they're going behind it and

574
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,159
and i can see some of them but by the

575
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:51,200
time because the tree is like ginormous

576
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,880
so i can't see what's going on behind

577
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:54,799
the tree but they never came out on the

578
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:56,320
other side

579
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:57,279
and

580
00:28:59,830 --> 00:28:58,480
um

581
00:29:47,830 --> 00:28:59,840
i

582
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,840
um

583
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:49,360
nothing

584
00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:53,440
i have no idea

585
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:54,880
none

586
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:57,520
and uh and here's the other upsetting

587
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:58,559
thing

588
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:01,200
i was gonna jump up and grab my phone

589
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:04,000
because leading up to the the five there

590
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:04,960
was

591
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,279
about a minute

592
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,520
and i was like man i gotta go get the

593
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,360
phone this is crazy

594
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,039
and i was gonna do that and that's when

595
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,360
the five popped up and moved across so

596
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,360
then i stayed

597
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,039
and then

598
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:23,600
nothing

599
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:31,039
that was it was over lasted about uh

600
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,559
three minutes

601
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:34,880
the whole thing it was incredible

602
00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:36,720
absolutely incredible

603
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,000
incredible

604
00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:40,559
that uh that that's right there that's

605
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,399
beer can

606
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:44,000
i don't know what i'm going to call this

607
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:46,080
one and then maybe

608
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,200
the uh

609
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,600
the green chrome balls you know comes in

610
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:51,360
at number three but that's that's how

611
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:52,720
significant

612
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:56,000
this event was on friday night

613
00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:58,720
crazy

614
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:03,120
checked uh the newspaper and the local

615
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:04,480
stuff to see if there are any other

616
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reports

617
00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,919
in the mojave desert it was nuts

618
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:09,279
it was nuts

619
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:12,720
i don't know i don't know what to say

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i have no idea this is faded black i'm

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00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:16,710
welcome back fade to black i am your

713
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:19,119
host jimmy church tonight's kicking off

714
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:21,599
squatch week on fade to black

715
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:24,400
my very special guest

716
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:26,240
is me

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00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,599
that's right

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00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:29,839
tonight i'm doing a two and a half hour

719
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,960
deep dive into bigfoot

720
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,800
that's right

721
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:38,000
lots lots to cover tonight i i couldn't

722
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,800
get everything in um but uh to pay

723
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:41,920
attention

724
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,520
and hopefully you'll learn or see

725
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,200
something that you didn't know

726
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,640
and that's the whole point of all of

727
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,480
this all right tomorrow night duke

728
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:51,040
sullivan of world bigfoot radio joins us

729
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:52,160
for night

730
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,599
two two

731
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,240
right and then wednesday nights

732
00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:58,480
first time guest william lunsford is

733
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,440
with us

734
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:01,119
for night

735
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,400
three

736
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,760
that's all right you ever see the movie

737
00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:05,520
in glorious bastards

738
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:08,960
then you know the significance

739
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,079
of that that's such a great scene

740
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,079
that's such a great scene

741
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,240
all right let's get let's get straight

742
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,920
to it

743
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:19,599
let's uh

744
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:28,480
oh man what do we do what do we do what

745
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:31,280
do we do when it comes to bigfoot right

746
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:32,640
and

747
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,280
about a lot of different things tonight

748
00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:39,359
and and and stuff

749
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,599
um and i'm probably going to mention

750
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,520
this a little bit later on the show but

751
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,200
by now

752
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:47,040
most of you know

753
00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:47,920
that

754
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,119
i've been

755
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:51,839
on the fence about bigfoot

756
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,320
all right i've had uh now

757
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:57,440
i love the subject but what i mean is uh

758
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,000
when i say on the fence i i really don't

759
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,640
know is it physical is this biological

760
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:06,000
is it is it an undiscovered species that

761
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,920
is wandering around or

762
00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:09,680
is it something else

763
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:11,480
right is it interdimensional

764
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,480
interplanetary interstellar right i

765
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:16,320
don't know i don't know

766
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,560
our bigfoot ghost of neanderthals i

767
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:19,920
don't know

768
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:25,359
they're the ghost of neanderthals maybe

769
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:30,790
why don't we see ghosts of neanderthals

770
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,510
oh

771
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:37,599
maybe

772
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,160
hadn't thought of that but anyway

773
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,640
um i have been on the fence i needed

774
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:46,880
something to push me

775
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:49,119
in one direction or the other or maybe

776
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,400
off the fence all together right and so

777
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,520
um

778
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,680
and this has been my quest

779
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:57,119
and i've been trying to figure it out

780
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,920
now

781
00:39:02,870 --> 00:38:59,119
so

782
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,880
here's i mean for me

783
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,880
i'm still directly in the middle

784
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,960
i'm directly in the middle

785
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,119
every time i lean one direction or the

786
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:11,119
other something pulls me back to the

787
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:12,240
other side and

788
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,000
and i'm like stuck so maybe we're just

789
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:18,640
looking at a whole lot of both

790
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:21,680
right maybe maybe it's just both

791
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:24,000
all right there are ghosts of humans and

792
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,240
then there's biological humans maybe

793
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,839
there's that there's interdimensional

794
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:29,040
humans

795
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:30,160
and

796
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:33,680
there's normal ones like me

797
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:36,079
and and so maybe maybe that's it

798
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,160
i don't know

799
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,640
i i truly don't know

800
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:43,040
but one thing is for sure

801
00:39:49,589 --> 00:39:47,680
this goes back a long long time

802
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,599
this is not a modern phenomena we're

803
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:51,359
going to be talking about mostly modern

804
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,720
stuff tonight but i wanted to get into

805
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,040
some of the history

806
00:40:02,470 --> 00:39:59,760
of bigfoot and kind of lay the

807
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:02,480
groundwork um on this

808
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:06,400
and even even with that um i think it's

809
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:08,720
it's going to be surprising to most

810
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,040
about how how much of this has been in

811
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:13,280
cultures around around the world for for

812
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:14,720
such a long time

813
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:17,599
it's not a it's not a modern thing

814
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,640
um many indigenous cultures across north

815
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,760
america

816
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:23,680
um have stories about

817
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,920
you know mysterious hair-covered

818
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:28,560
creatures living in the forest

819
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,560
and these legends these stories um this

820
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:33,839
mythology

821
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,040
has existed long before uh modern day

822
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,520
reports of of bigfoot and even where the

823
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:41,520
name bigfoot came from

824
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,319
uh

825
00:40:46,230 --> 00:40:44,400
even that is older than than you may

826
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:46,240
think and we're going to get to that

827
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,800
well on the tool indian reservation

828
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:52,560
in uh central california right here in

829
00:40:59,670 --> 00:40:55,760
central california petroglyphs

830
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,680
created by a tribe of yokuts on a site

831
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:02,160
called painted rock

832
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:05,200
depict a group of bigfoot

833
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,480
and they're called

834
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:08,480
the family now that that's what this

835
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:10,319
image is here

836
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:11,200
and

837
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:18,480
um the local tribes people um call the

838
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:21,920
largest of the glyphs hairy man and they

839
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:26,640
are estimated to be between 500 and 1000

840
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,079
years old

841
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,200
now 16th century spanish explorers and

842
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:34,319
mexican settlers in california told

843
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,319
tales of the lost uh dark watchers

844
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:40,560
the large creatures alleged to stalk

845
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,920
their camps at night

846
00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:45,440
in the region that is now the

847
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:48,079
mississippi

848
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,720
priest was living with uh the natchez in

849
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,960
1721

850
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,440
and reported stories of hairy creatures

851
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:02,560
in the force known to scream loudly

852
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:06,400
and steal livestock

853
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,079
each language in north america had its

854
00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:12,560
own name for the creature featured in

855
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,119
the local version of such legends and

856
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,520
many names mean something along the

857
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:20,000
lines of wild man

858
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,800
or

859
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:22,480
hairy man

860
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,520
and in um

861
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,560
these are some more images of different

862
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,040
bigfoot from around the country

863
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:33,599
again petroglyphs um this is an actual

864
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:38,000
photograph of the rock uh in in um

865
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:39,760
at painted rock

866
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:42,160
this is this very similar here too as

867
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,599
well very cool um then in 1895

868
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,680
uh there was

869
00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:52,079
a transcript uh

870
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:55,599
in the north adams transcript newspaper

871
00:43:03,589 --> 00:42:59,520
ran this front page story here

872
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:03,599
um about a strange marauder

873
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:05,280
now known

874
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:09,040
to be a full-grown gorilla

875
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,400
called wild man this is 1895

876
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:17,119
okay a full-grown gorilla

877
00:43:20,309 --> 00:43:18,599
also in

878
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,319
1895

879
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,520
was the first mention of bigfoot

880
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,599
in the new york times and here's the

881
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:27,119
article here

882
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,160
and

883
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,960
they talk about uh

884
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,839
um

885
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,599
uh this

886
00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:35,440
i i don't know another way to put it

887
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:37,119
other than they

888
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,800
they were calling it a large grid a

889
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:41,040
grizzly bear that killed a thousand

890
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,000
cattle

891
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,319
and attacked humans and they called that

892
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:46,319
grizzly bear

893
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,839
bigfoot

894
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:49,520
and that's what that article was about

895
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:52,400
that also came out in 1895.

896
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,480
chief michelle of the nakla uh pammu in

897
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:59,119
british columbia told such a story to

898
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,400
charles hill

899
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:02,960
tout in 1898

900
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:06,319
he named the creature by a salashan

901
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,000
variant meaning wild men or sasquatch

902
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:12,480
members of the lumi tell tales about

903
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,040
creatures known as the ti semquests

904
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,480
now uh some regional versions tell more

905
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:22,640
threatening stories uh about these

906
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:25,520
creatures like the stell yaha or the

907
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,560
kiwi ki y yai which

908
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:31,280
were a nocturnal race and children were

909
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,800
warned against

910
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,119
saying the names so that the monsters

911
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:37,440
would not come and carry them off to be

912
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,480
killed

913
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,400
the iroquois

914
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:42,880
tell of an aggressive hair covered giant

915
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:46,480
with rock-hard skin known as the ot

916
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:50,640
na yarje or the stone giant

917
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:54,720
in 1847 paul kane reported stories by

918
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:57,200
the natives about the

919
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,800
scucums

920
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:01,520
a race of cannibalistic wild men living

921
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:04,480
on the peak of mount saint helens in

922
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,160
southern washington now in 1924 in the

923
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:10,800
same area there was a violent encounter

924
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,680
between a group of gold prospectors and

925
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:16,240
a group of eight men it was reported in

926
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:20,240
the july 16 1924 issue of the oregonian

927
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:21,760
which is pictured

928
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,200
uh uh uh back here hold on also let me

929
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:27,839
back up this is a drawing

930
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,079
from the 1924

931
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,000
incident right here from one of the

932
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:33,839
eyewitnesses

933
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:35,440
and uh

934
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,839
who who talked about the eight men that

935
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,760
attacked their camp

936
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,720
it's uh it's a it's a pretty incredible

937
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:45,040
story and again documented in the

938
00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:46,480
newspapers

939
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:49,599
now u.s president theodore roosevelt in

940
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:53,359
his 1893 book the wilderness hunter

941
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:55,920
writes of a story he was told by an

942
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,040
elderly mountain man named balman

943
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,000
in which a foul-smelling bipedal

944
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,960
creature ransacked his beaver tramping

945
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:08,000
camp stalked him and later became

946
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:09,440
hostile

947
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,400
when it fatally broke his companion's

948
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:14,960
neck in the wilderness near the idaho

949
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:17,040
montana border

950
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,560
that was united states president

951
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:21,040
theodore roosevelt i read the quotes

952
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:23,839
from his journal now

953
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,920
less menacing versions have also been

954
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,040
recorded such as one by reverend uh

955
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:31,920
elkanah walker from 1840

956
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,480
walker was a protestant missionary who

957
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,480
recorded stories of giants among the

958
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:39,359
natives living near spokane washington

959
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:42,000
these giants were said to live on and

960
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,280
around the peaks of the nearby mountains

961
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,079
stealing salmon from the fisherman's

962
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,599
nets

963
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,960
now

964
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:53,200
where did the name bigfoot come from all

965
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:57,200
right now i didn't i didn't go through

966
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:58,720
and i just didn't have the time to do

967
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:01,040
all of this tonight but to list every

968
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,920
bigfoot uh indian

969
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:04,960
uh

970
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:08,560
here in in north america

971
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,760
okay

972
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:11,760
everybody had the name bigfoot there's a

973
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,880
lot of them

974
00:47:16,230 --> 00:47:14,800
a lot of chief bigfoots

975
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:16,240
um

976
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,119
and

977
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:19,040
there were i just showed you newspaper

978
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,480
reports with bigfoot in it but here is

979
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:24,079
this

980
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:28,319
is the strange story from 1958

981
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:29,200
um

982
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,960
jerry crew

983
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,760
a logging company bulldozer operator in

984
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:36,400
humboldt county california

985
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:37,599
discovered

986
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,480
a set of large 16-inch human-like

987
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,920
footprints

988
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,119
sunk deep

989
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:45,440
within the mud in the six rivers

990
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:47,119
national forest

991
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,960
upon informing his co-workers many claim

992
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:53,599
to have seen similar tracks on previous

993
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:55,680
job sites as well

994
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,359
and a lot of them were telling of

995
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,440
of incidents that were happening in

996
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:03,599
different sightings and one of them was

997
00:48:06,349 --> 00:48:05,440
an oil drum

998
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,359
weighing

999
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:08,480
450 pounds

1000
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,319
that was moved without explanation

1001
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,960
now the logging company men soon began

1002
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:16,960
utilizing the term

1003
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:18,880
bigfoot

1004
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,079
crew who initially believed someone was

1005
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:24,079
playing a prank on them

1006
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,000
once again observed more of these

1007
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:27,920
numerous massive footprints and

1008
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:30,559
contacted reporter andrew

1009
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:31,920
ginzoli

1010
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:35,119
of the humble time standard newspaper

1011
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:38,559
which is what you see right here

1012
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,000
genzoli

1013
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,559
interviewed lumber workers and wrote

1014
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:44,640
articles about the mysterious footprints

1015
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,960
introducing the name bigfoot in relation

1016
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:49,680
to the tracks and the local tales of

1017
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,640
large hairy wild men

1018
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:55,359
the plaster cast was made a plaster cast

1019
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:57,760
was made of the footprints and crew

1020
00:49:03,750 --> 00:48:59,920
appeared holding one of the casts on the

1021
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,760
front page of the newspaper on october 6

1022
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:05,760
1958

1023
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,480
the story spread rapidly as ginzoli

1024
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,319
began to receive correspondence from

1025
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:12,800
major media outlets including

1026
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:16,720
the new york and los angeles times as a

1027
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,000
result

1028
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:20,319
the term bigfoot

1029
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:23,520
became the name of an unknown creature

1030
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,839
leaving massive footprints in northern

1031
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,520
california

1032
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:30,000
so that is the genesis of the story this

1033
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:30,800
is

1034
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:34,160
uh one of the many front page articles

1035
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,040
um

1036
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,559
that uh jen zoli had put out and

1037
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:41,520
and that pretty much was it

1038
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:45,040
bigfoot was off to the races and i'm

1039
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:47,040
going to be talking about this uh much

1040
00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:48,400
more

1041
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,040
in uh the presentation tonight about the

1042
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:53,599
locations and and things

1043
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:55,599
of sightings but

1044
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:57,680
northern california

1045
00:50:04,630 --> 00:49:58,559
is

1046
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,640
of course uh uh oregon we can talk about

1047
00:50:09,030 --> 00:50:06,880
because this was uh very close to the

1048
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:09,040
oregon border by the way

1049
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,920
um

1050
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,440
mount shasta

1051
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,359
is just to the east

1052
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:14,880
and then to the west well there's the

1053
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,160
pacific ocean and bluff creek site of

1054
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:20,800
the uh famous patterson gimlin film

1055
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:23,359
which i'll be discussing next

1056
00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:26,319
is also in this general area but this is

1057
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,240
northern california and i've talked

1058
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,640
about this many times you can go up

1059
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:31,680
there

1060
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:34,160
and pull into any gas station any

1061
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:40,630
ace hardware store

1062
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:44,079
a's hardware right it's buying hardware

1063
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,280
right there by the cash register

1064
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:50,160
rack of bigfoot t-shirts right there

1065
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,040
right there

1066
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,680
i bought a couple more and one now right

1067
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,160
bought a couple bigfoot keychains

1068
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:58,640
at the ace hardware store no ufo

1069
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:00,720
t-shirts no

1070
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:06,400
but lots of bigfoot

1071
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,800
and that's what that is what this part

1072
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:11,119
of the country is all about everybody up

1073
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,960
there has got a bigfoot story

1074
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:13,839
now

1075
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:16,400
uh the further north you go like in

1076
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:17,760
canada

1077
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,829
depending on where you go

1078
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,680
sasquatch and bigfoot are

1079
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:29,359
interchangeable

1080
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,240
um i have tried to find differences

1081
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:33,599
between

1082
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,559
what we call bigfoot down here in the

1083
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,079
united states

1084
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,119
and what is up in the pacific northwest

1085
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:43,200
and heading into british columbia and in

1086
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,480
that area

1087
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:46,960
no differences between sasquatch and

1088
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,200
bigfoot that i can find

1089
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:52,400
they are one and the same and the terms

1090
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,440
to me

1091
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:55,920
are interchangeable so that answers that

1092
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,880
question

1093
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:59,359
but across the united states

1094
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:01,599
um oh uh

1095
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,280
uh i wanted to jump no okay no i'm not

1096
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,839
gonna do that i was gonna jump ahead

1097
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,359
all right

1098
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:11,599
so canada at sasquatch across the united

1099
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,720
states

1100
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,119
names include

1101
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:17,440
the skunk ape

1102
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,680
in florida

1103
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:21,440
all right now there you go that's the

1104
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:23,920
floridian uh newspaper

1105
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,800
and uh there you go sniffing out skunk

1106
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,880
ape and you could see the illustration

1107
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:29,760
there

1108
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:32,960
that's in florida

1109
00:52:37,990 --> 00:52:36,240
and other southern states too as well

1110
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:38,000
you have

1111
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:46,880
the grassman in ohio

1112
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,040
you have uh

1113
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,839
one of uh one of my favorites you've got

1114
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,319
the wood booger

1115
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:57,520
that's right the wood burger the wood

1116
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,640
booger

1117
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:01,440
in virginia and there is

1118
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:05,440
the wood bur booger not wood burger

1119
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,240
wood

1120
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,760
booger

1121
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:11,510
i

1122
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,800
booger

1123
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:20,559
in virginia

1124
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,559
you have um the beast of whitehall

1125
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:27,280
in whitehall new york

1126
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,079
right you've got uh one of my favorites

1127
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:32,559
you've got momo

1128
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,309
you've got the

1129
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,200
honey island swamp monster

1130
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,440
in louisiana

1131
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:45,040
yeah

1132
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,640
but you didn't know that there is the

1133
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:51,119
dewey lake monster

1134
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:58,390
you've got

1135
00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:01,040
the mongolian in

1136
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:04,000
the mongolian rim in arizona

1137
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,520
this is a tourism sign by the way

1138
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:09,040
that's right

1139
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,200
up on the room they have the uh

1140
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:13,359
they have that run up there right the

1141
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:16,240
magolan uh 100

1142
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:19,520
yeah that's like a real thing

1143
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,680
and what's on the t-shirts

1144
00:54:26,470 --> 00:54:23,839
that's right you get a number for the

1145
00:54:29,829 --> 00:54:26,480
race right

1146
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,839
got bigfoot on there you got the magolan

1147
00:54:34,309 --> 00:54:31,680
and that's in arizona

1148
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,319
and then you have the

1149
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:36,839
the big muddy

1150
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,079
monster in illinois

1151
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,960
now what was interesting as and there's

1152
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,359
many more there's many more

1153
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:46,559
um

1154
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,920
they have become so popular and part of

1155
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,720
the local cultures across the country

1156
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:53,839
that

1157
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:56,720
i found it fascinating in doing research

1158
00:55:03,349 --> 00:54:59,680
over the years to see

1159
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:03,359
how the local communities embrace

1160
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,559
bigfoot embrace these creatures

1161
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:09,119
and and bring it into the local economy

1162
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,319
and they have

1163
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:11,760
they have a beer fest they have

1164
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,720
festivals music festivals um athletic

1165
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:16,480
events they have fun they have that they

1166
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:17,680
have things

1167
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:20,240
um that bring the community together and

1168
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,799
it's not just one it's many they have

1169
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:25,040
film festivals and

1170
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,559
um so many local documentaries uh for

1171
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,319
each one of these

1172
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:33,200
monsters uh names that i've just listed

1173
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:36,319
today there is a documentary that is

1174
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:39,920
tied with uh that local monster there

1175
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,160
are books that are being written

1176
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:44,400
uh about these local monsters so it's

1177
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:46,079
not just bigfoot

1178
00:55:51,349 --> 00:55:49,920
it's uh boggy creek right it's it's

1179
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,359
it's uh

1180
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:53,760
something that has embraced the country

1181
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,200
now the sightings and where

1182
00:56:03,510 --> 00:55:59,440
things are predominantly

1183
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:03,520
it goes down in northern california

1184
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,720
oregon and the pacific northwest it's

1185
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,480
about half of the sightings each year

1186
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:10,079
and i'll break down the numbers in a

1187
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:11,119
little bit

1188
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:13,040
um and then we have

1189
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,119
uh maybe a 10 percent goes down in the

1190
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:19,839
southeast and another 10 of those

1191
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,640
numbers um in the

1192
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:23,920
northeast

1193
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,280
and then spread out the remaining 30

1194
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:29,280
percent around the country and the great

1195
00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,559
lakes region

1196
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,440
but the majority of sightings by far

1197
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,559
are northern california oregon and uh

1198
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:39,440
the pacific north northwest uh which

1199
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:41,599
includes of course washington

1200
00:56:47,430 --> 00:56:44,640
so the numbers are incredible it's not

1201
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,440
uh although the majority of bigfoot

1202
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,359
sightings do happen in the pacific

1203
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:52,559
northwest they are they are seen cited

1204
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,480
reported photographed video drawn

1205
00:57:01,510 --> 00:56:58,960
in every state in the united states it

1206
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,520
is it is certainly national

1207
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,000
and also international and i've got a

1208
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:06,720
lot of that that we'll be covering uh

1209
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:09,359
when we return after the break

1210
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:12,559
now coming back after the break got to

1211
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:16,240
do it uh i've got a complete breakdown

1212
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:19,440
of the patterson gimlin film

1213
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:23,760
and in this uh breakdown i have

1214
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:26,400
gathered some stuff that you probably

1215
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:28,079
have never seen before

1216
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:31,920
i have got uh high-res scans of

1217
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:35,119
individual frames of the film there are

1218
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:39,520
two reels uh maybe three uh from uh that

1219
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,040
were shot

1220
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:43,760
uh it's not just the one piece of film

1221
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,680
and i've got high-res scans uh from both

1222
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:50,079
so stay tuned we've got that coming up

1223
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:53,920
next the patterson gimlin film this is

1224
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,000
fade to black i am your host jimmy

1225
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:58,799
church this is squatch week this week on

1226
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,280
fade to black tonight is night one the

1227
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,280
guest is me tomorrow night

1228
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,839
duke sullivan of world bigfoot radio is

1229
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:07,440
here then wednesday night william

1230
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,160
lunsford is here for night three

1231
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thursday nights another fader night with

1232
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open lines all night long i'm your host

1233
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,640
jimmy church

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00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,880
i'll be right back more with squatch

1235
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:19,680
week and the patterson gimlin film next

1236
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,040
this is fade to black i'm the game

1237
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changer in nx networks i'm your host

1238
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jimmy church i'll be right back stay

1239
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1240
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1256
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1257
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1286
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1288
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1290
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1291
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:51,280
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1292
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,520
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1293
01:00:57,510 --> 01:00:55,680
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1294
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,520
find the real thing

1295
01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:59,520
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1296
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,160
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1297
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1298
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1299
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1300
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1304
01:01:23,510 --> 01:01:19,920
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1305
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:23,520
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1306
01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:26,000
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1307
01:01:30,390 --> 01:01:27,680
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1308
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1309
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1310
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1314
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1315
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1316
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:00,960
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1317
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:05,520
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01:02:51,029 --> 01:02:47,440
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1338
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:20,789
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1339
01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,039
week here on fade to black tonight the

1340
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:25,520
guest is me i'm doing a two and a half

1341
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,440
hour presentation on bigfoot uh tomorrow

1342
01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:31,680
night uh duke sullivan world bigfoot

1343
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,559
radio is with us wednesday night william

1344
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,720
lundsford is here first time guest i'm

1345
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:38,640
very excited about having william with

1346
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,720
us and then thursday night is another

1347
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:43,119
fader night with open lines all night

1348
01:03:49,670 --> 01:03:46,640
long now let's talk about

1349
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:49,680
the patterson gimlin film the patterson

1350
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:50,799
film

1351
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:53,280
and let me uh

1352
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:55,760
let's just get things straight to it

1353
01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:01,430
i have often said

1354
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:04,079
if ufology

1355
01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:07,119
had a piece of footage

1356
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:08,880
like the patterson

1357
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,559
film it would be case closed

1358
01:04:18,630 --> 01:04:14,400
it would it would be case close the

1359
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:18,640
videos that uh we have got uh in the ufo

1360
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:19,760
community

1361
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:22,720
uh nothing is definitive all interesting

1362
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:24,480
you know doesn't really matter i mean

1363
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:27,119
they're interesting you can take from it

1364
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:29,359
what you will but we don't have

1365
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:32,400
just imagine if we had

1366
01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:34,240
a shot

1367
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:35,280
of

1368
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,640
uh an e.t gray you know walking like

1369
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:40,799
this for 50 seconds

1370
01:04:47,109 --> 01:04:44,870
man

1371
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,119
right it would be case closed imagine if

1372
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:49,680
we had a shot of a flying saucer on the

1373
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:51,920
ground in a creek bed

1374
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:55,039
just sitting there on film

1375
01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:57,119
not video on film

1376
01:05:01,270 --> 01:04:58,960
it would be case closed but we don't

1377
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:01,280
have that but we do have the patterson

1378
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:03,039
gimlin film

1379
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:04,880
and it was shot

1380
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:08,400
in 1967 in northern california

1381
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:11,680
and it has been subjected to many

1382
01:05:16,710 --> 01:05:13,599
attempts to

1383
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:16,720
authenticate it or to debunk it and to

1384
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:19,440
date neither side has one

1385
01:05:25,029 --> 01:05:20,880
that's it

1386
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:26,710
now it was

1387
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:30,000
filmed alongside bluff creek about 25

1388
01:05:36,549 --> 01:05:33,839
miles northwest of orleans california

1389
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:36,559
uh the film site is roughly 38 miles

1390
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:40,000
south of oregon the oregon border and 18

1391
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:43,119
miles east of the pacific ocean

1392
01:05:48,789 --> 01:05:46,000
now for decades the exact location of

1393
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:48,799
the site was lost primarily because

1394
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:51,520
of regrowth of foliage

1395
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,160
in the stream bed after the flood of

1396
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:56,079
1964.

1397
01:06:02,549 --> 01:06:00,799
it was rediscovered back in 2011.

1398
01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:02,559
so you have to picture this part of the

1399
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:03,599
country

1400
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:05,440
again

1401
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:09,039
very close to the oregon border

1402
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:12,079
very close to the pacific ocean

1403
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:13,680
so far north

1404
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,240
in northern california again

1405
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:18,720
directly to the east is mount shasta and

1406
01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:21,920
then you just go north a couple of dozen

1407
01:06:27,270 --> 01:06:24,240
miles and you're at the oregon border so

1408
01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:27,280
that's where it is very remote area

1409
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:30,079
now the filmmakers of course were roger

1410
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:33,200
patterson and bob gimlin

1411
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:34,240
and

1412
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:35,440
uh

1413
01:06:45,150 --> 01:06:36,640
bob

1414
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:45,160
and often speaks about that day back in

1415
01:06:49,750 --> 01:06:46,720
1967.

1416
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:49,760
this shot here is one of my favorite

1417
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:52,640
frames uh from the film

1418
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:53,520
and

1419
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,599
i got it the more that i look at this

1420
01:07:02,870 --> 01:06:58,640
um

1421
01:07:03,829 --> 01:07:02,880
this shot here uh i i it just doesn't

1422
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:03,839
look

1423
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:07,920
like a an ape suit a gorilla suit it

1424
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:12,480
just it doesn't feel that way uh to me

1425
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:13,440
um

1426
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:16,319
this this other image here which i've

1427
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:18,240
got high-res scans of it this is a

1428
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,039
low-res version of it and i've posted it

1429
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:23,119
here so you can see it and later

1430
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:26,240
i'm gonna bring up uh the high-res uh

1431
01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:27,280
shot

1432
01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:31,839
and uh this is another high-res scan

1433
01:07:35,510 --> 01:07:33,280
of patty

1434
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:35,520
uh that's what she has been named of

1435
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:37,359
paddy's face

1436
01:07:42,870 --> 01:07:40,319
and that just

1437
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:42,880
doesn't look like an ape suit

1438
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:45,200
it just doesn't it doesn't not not to my

1439
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:46,319
eyes

1440
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:50,319
um here uh is another breakdown i'm

1441
01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,559
gonna circle back to this again later

1442
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:54,839
too as well about the height and

1443
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:58,720
proportions um and so many researchers

1444
01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:00,880
have analyzed this film

1445
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:03,200
uh looked at the trees looked at this

1446
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:05,359
there's uh people that have been brought

1447
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:06,240
in

1448
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:09,440
stuff

1449
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:10,640
um

1450
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:13,599
and we'll talk about more uh in just a

1451
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:14,880
bit but

1452
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:17,759
um generally speaking i think today

1453
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:20,960
patty is is put right around the seven

1454
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:23,359
foot mark but we'll we'll come back to

1455
01:08:27,309 --> 01:08:25,600
that the film itself

1456
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:27,319
is just

1457
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:30,480
23.85 feet long that's it

1458
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,319
that's 28 feet of film it's only 954

1459
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:38,640
frames every frame

1460
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:41,120
has been analyzed

1461
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,920
it runs for just 59 and a half seconds

1462
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:46,319
at 16 frames per second

1463
01:08:50,829 --> 01:08:48,480
and it was shot on

1464
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:50,839
october 20th

1465
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:53,839
1967. now the story goes that in the

1466
01:08:57,189 --> 01:08:55,679
early afternoon of that friday back in

1467
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,199
1967

1468
01:09:02,789 --> 01:08:59,279
patterson and gimlin were riding

1469
01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:02,799
northeast upstream on horseback

1470
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:06,640
along the east bank of bluff creek at

1471
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:09,440
some time between 1 15

1472
01:09:13,990 --> 01:09:11,920
and 1 40 p.m

1473
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:14,000
they they're riding right they're on

1474
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:18,000
horseback very remote area and uh

1475
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,560
they come up to an overturned tree

1476
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:23,759
with uh its root system exposed

1477
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:26,080
right and so all of that is up and as

1478
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:27,040
they

1479
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:33,520
you know what it looks like right with

1480
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:35,759
the dirt and the roots and everything up

1481
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:38,480
you know kind of blocking their view

1482
01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:39,359
they

1483
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,480
um in the creek

1484
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,560
now when they rounded it

1485
01:09:50,470 --> 01:09:48,400
there was a log jam

1486
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:50,480
uh in front of them left over from that

1487
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:54,320
flood in 1964. so there was a pile of

1488
01:09:58,149 --> 01:09:56,000
logs and

1489
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,159
that's when they spotted patty

1490
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,159
they said it was a figure

1491
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:02,560
behind the log jam

1492
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:06,719
they both saw patty at the same time

1493
01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:08,880
now uh

1494
01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:10,480
one

1495
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,159
she was crouching

1496
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:16,880
beside the creek to their left

1497
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:17,760
um

1498
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,239
and then kimlin said she was standing

1499
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,400
but uh so you got two versions of the

1500
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,920
story but that's

1501
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,360
uh

1502
01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:26,880
they've stuck to it they haven't changed

1503
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,480
their story

1504
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:31,199
uh well uh patterson's no longer with us

1505
01:10:35,910 --> 01:10:32,000
but

1506
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:35,920
opposite bank

1507
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:37,920
across the creek from them

1508
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:41,440
gimlin later described himself

1509
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:44,800
as in a mild state of shock

1510
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:48,159
after first seeing patty

1511
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:49,440
now

1512
01:10:55,669 --> 01:10:52,960
here uh as we we jumped into this uh

1513
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:55,679
there's a roger or that's bob gimlin

1514
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,640
there

1515
01:11:01,750 --> 01:10:58,480
uh it's an autographed picture that i

1516
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:01,760
found uh holding up uh the footprint

1517
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:06,000
there's bob uh and roger uh there uh

1518
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:08,480
posing uh for the press

1519
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:11,920
uh a couple of days after uh the the

1520
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,880
sighting

1521
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:15,679
and in this series of photographs they

1522
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,960
are in front of uh their footprints that

1523
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,960
they had made cast of

1524
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:22,000
now the

1525
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,640
the whereabouts this is where

1526
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:26,480
everything gets really really

1527
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:28,640
interesting in this story because the

1528
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:31,840
original film is is lost

1529
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:34,880
where it is is completely unknown

1530
01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:36,560
the last company

1531
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:39,360
known to own and possess the film

1532
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,000
century group went bankrupt in 1996.

1533
01:11:50,229 --> 01:11:47,120
the company's films were in storage here

1534
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:50,239
in los angeles but a search failed to

1535
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:52,800
turn up the patterson footage it was

1536
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:55,840
last seen physically by researchers

1537
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,120
renee dahindin and bruce bonnie in 1980

1538
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:03,679
when renee convinced the film vault in

1539
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:05,920
southern california holding it to

1540
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:07,440
release it to him

1541
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:10,719
he made uh cyberchrome images from it

1542
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:13,840
sometime between then and 1996

1543
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,480
the film went missing from its numbered

1544
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:19,360
location in the vault still missing to

1545
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:21,040
this day

1546
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:23,440
the film itself

1547
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:26,800
will enter the public domain on january

1548
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:29,760
1st 2063

1549
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:33,120
when all works published in 1967 enter

1550
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,960
the public domain in the united states

1551
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:39,199
now um

1552
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:44,790
somebody's got that footage there are

1553
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,719
two reels of film possibly a third

1554
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:50,400
um

1555
01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:53,199
somebody got it

1556
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:56,000
somebody went in and grabbed it now the

1557
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:00,480
cyber chrome scans were made in 1980

1558
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,239
um and it again in a film vault here in

1559
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,480
southern california

1560
01:13:13,030 --> 01:13:09,280
there are a few people that

1561
01:13:14,229 --> 01:13:13,040
may have had it uh have had access to it

1562
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:14,239
there are

1563
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:16,480
a couple of attorneys that may have had

1564
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,880
access to it um

1565
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,800
it's it's it's really interesting that

1566
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:23,040
nobody has come forward

1567
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:26,800
uh with the original films now there are

1568
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:27,679
two

1569
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:34,400
that were made of the original print

1570
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:37,199
um so that's that's what exists today so

1571
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:38,800
most of the stuff

1572
01:13:43,830 --> 01:13:41,679
uh the hyrus scans that were uh and the

1573
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:43,840
imaging that was done back in

1574
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,480
in 1980 the the high-risk scans that i'm

1575
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:48,480
showing you today were done from those

1576
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:49,760
cyberchrome

1577
01:13:53,830 --> 01:13:52,960
uh prints that were made back in 1980.

1578
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,840
um

1579
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:55,520
so that's it

1580
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:57,760
everything that you see with the

1581
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,640
patterson uh film today

1582
01:14:05,110 --> 01:14:02,719
is second third fourth and fifth

1583
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,120
generation at best so

1584
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:07,199
always remember that when you're looking

1585
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:10,480
at those images but um

1586
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:13,120
uh i was able to

1587
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,560
get to a large series

1588
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:19,600
of those high-res scans from the

1589
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:22,880
original two royals of film

1590
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:25,840
that you've probably never seen before

1591
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:28,800
and they're all very very interesting

1592
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:31,360
now of course we got to go with this one

1593
01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:32,560
first

1594
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:34,719
this is

1595
01:14:39,110 --> 01:14:36,719
and you need to look at the detail now

1596
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:39,120
this is a high-res scan

1597
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:40,400
of uh

1598
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:41,760
of patty

1599
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:44,320
looking at the camera

1600
01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:48,480
stunning detail uh the color is amazing

1601
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:50,320
and when you look at the trees and you

1602
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,440
look at the background look at

1603
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,000
everything this isn't a grainy image

1604
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:56,640
this is a high high-res

1605
01:15:01,830 --> 01:14:59,440
shot of that single frame you can see

1606
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:01,840
the frame marks here

1607
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:05,280
uh from uh the side of the film

1608
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:07,280
absolutely incredible absolutely

1609
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:09,679
incredible but uh let's go to this next

1610
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:11,040
image

1611
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:12,480
this is

1612
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:14,400
a second scan

1613
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,679
of the same frame

1614
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,000
hi-res

1615
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:22,239
okay this is different than anything

1616
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:25,199
else you have seen before this is a pure

1617
01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:27,120
high-res scan

1618
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,199
enlargement of that same single frame of

1619
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:32,719
film

1620
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:35,440
and i i mean to me

1621
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:36,800
uh

1622
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:39,040
to see something like this without with

1623
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:41,520
not fuzzy not questioning what you're

1624
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,159
looking at that's that's incredible now

1625
01:15:48,149 --> 01:15:46,800
there's so much has been made of uh the

1626
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,159
physique

1627
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:49,920
of of patty

1628
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:50,960
um

1629
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:53,520
the more that and i watched uh the

1630
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,679
gimlin film over the weekend uh the

1631
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:57,520
patterson film over the weekend dozens

1632
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:58,880
of times

1633
01:16:02,950 --> 01:16:01,520
and i have to say

1634
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:02,960
for me

1635
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:06,400
it's uh the gate and walk

1636
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:07,280
are

1637
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:11,440
number one number two

1638
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,080
it's a very large

1639
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:16,719
creature person whatever it is it's it's

1640
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,000
big

1641
01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:20,480
but it's the arms

1642
01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:23,600
it's the arms to me the proportion

1643
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:24,400
and

1644
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:27,920
uh

1645
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:32,080
and and analysis done from the original

1646
01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:33,040
frames

1647
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:36,320
um that say that yes the the the arms

1648
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:38,640
aren't the correct proportion as

1649
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:41,040
compared to a human but it's the way

1650
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:44,400
that the arms move and swing

1651
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:45,840
it just

1652
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,320
it's you know and then of course there

1653
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:49,920
are the breasts

1654
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,199
and when you look at uh the high-res

1655
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:55,199
frames that i have here that you're

1656
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:56,239
seeing

1657
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,640
and you look at the physique of that i'm

1658
01:17:02,709 --> 01:17:00,480
not so sure

1659
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:02,719
that if this was faked in hoax that

1660
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:05,679
roger patterson or and bob gimlin

1661
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:08,880
uh why why would you do a female uh

1662
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,719
sasquatch

1663
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:12,960
um now it's it's not

1664
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,520
what i'm saying is

1665
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:17,520
would you you know sitting around with

1666
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,719
your buddy and you're going to hoax this

1667
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,880
um and i don't think if if it was hoax

1668
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,960
i'm not sure that bob gimlin would have

1669
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:26,960
been involved this would have been

1670
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,920
uh roger trying to pull this off but i

1671
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,840
still don't believe that to be the case

1672
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:34,159
but why would you go

1673
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:37,120
and and spend money and have a a costume

1674
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:39,040
made of a female because how would you

1675
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,400
know what that looked like

1676
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:42,239
and that that's my point

1677
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,040
and it's just it looks

1678
01:17:49,830 --> 01:17:47,440
it looks authentic to me and in this

1679
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:49,840
high-res image you can see that

1680
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:50,960
um

1681
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:53,440
now this next image now most of these

1682
01:17:57,990 --> 01:17:55,360
haven't been seen before

1683
01:18:01,990 --> 01:17:58,000
this next image

1684
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:02,000
these next three images are of

1685
01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:03,520
scans

1686
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:05,840
of the footprints

1687
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:08,640
next to the creek bed now

1688
01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:11,120
after

1689
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,920
town

1690
01:18:16,870 --> 01:18:14,960
uh

1691
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:16,880
law enforcement they were trying to

1692
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,880
contact people they were trying to they

1693
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:20,640
also had this film that was just shot

1694
01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:23,040
they needed to get this processed and

1695
01:18:27,669 --> 01:18:25,520
and and and get this down to los angeles

1696
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:27,679
somehow and and out of

1697
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:30,159
uh northern california everybody was

1698
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,080
excited then it started raining

1699
01:18:35,990 --> 01:18:34,560
and a big storm rolled in

1700
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,000
um so

1701
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:38,239
when they went back to the creek bed

1702
01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:40,560
uh some of the footprints were washed

1703
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:43,600
away some were not

1704
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,239
this is shot number one

1705
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:48,560
of one of the footprints okay now they

1706
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:52,000
went back they got their uh uh

1707
01:18:55,990 --> 01:18:54,800
plaster of paris material to pour into

1708
01:19:02,229 --> 01:18:56,000
the

1709
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:02,239
wasn't that many that were left but

1710
01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:03,920
here's another shot and this one's a

1711
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:05,120
great one

1712
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:08,800
and again this is a high res scan of a

1713
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:10,719
single frame

1714
01:19:16,470 --> 01:19:13,679
from the second reel of film

1715
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,480
and here you can see the toes

1716
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:18,800
and that's absolutely incredible but

1717
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:21,520
check out this next one

1718
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:23,120
again a little washed out but you can

1719
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:24,880
still see the toes

1720
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:27,760
and they are there and

1721
01:19:31,590 --> 01:19:30,239
uh this is high res and you look at this

1722
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,600
in detail i want you to blow up your

1723
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:33,120
computer screen

1724
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:35,120
i took great care to make sure that

1725
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:37,840
these images were perfect

1726
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,239
but uh absolutely incredible

1727
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,560
and here's a shot of roger

1728
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:44,000
patterson

1729
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:45,679
he's got his uh

1730
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:48,400
his plaster material mixed up and he is

1731
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:52,239
pouring a mold of one of the three

1732
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:54,400
footprints that they still found in the

1733
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:55,760
creek bed

1734
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:58,640
and here's another image

1735
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:00,880
of the poured

1736
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:03,679
footprint this is high res i had never

1737
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:06,960
seen these images before maybe you have

1738
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:10,159
uh but the hi-res scan version of of

1739
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:11,520
these images

1740
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:14,320
are incredible so

1741
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,840
there you go

1742
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:17,600
um here

1743
01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:20,880
is this is a portion of the high-res uh

1744
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:23,600
scan again an image i had never seen

1745
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:27,600
before uh and uh this is from the film

1746
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:30,480
and there is roger patterson holding up

1747
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:33,520
two of the three plaster casts that they

1748
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:34,400
made

1749
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:35,760
that day

1750
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:36,960
um

1751
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:40,719
here uh now also if you notice

1752
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:43,840
uh look at roger's shirt

1753
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:47,520
you see roger's shirt there and uh in

1754
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:50,960
these other images of backup okay

1755
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:54,080
uh roger's wearing the same shirt in

1756
01:20:59,430 --> 01:20:55,679
in all of the film

1757
01:21:02,310 --> 01:20:59,440
okay um here's roger for the newspaper

1758
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,320
um holding up one of the cast and you

1759
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:04,320
can see next to his foot he's got a

1760
01:21:09,030 --> 01:21:06,880
pretty good looking foot by the way

1761
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:09,040
uh i wish my foot looked that good

1762
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,880
um next to paddy's footprint

1763
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:15,600
yeah it was that big

1764
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:17,360
it was that big and to say that patty

1765
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:19,440
was only six feet tall

1766
01:21:22,390 --> 01:21:20,400
uh

1767
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,400
and with a foot like that well i guess

1768
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:24,239
that's why they call him big feet

1769
01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:25,600
but uh

1770
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,639
that that's a that's a big

1771
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,880
big footprint right there

1772
01:21:36,870 --> 01:21:32,320
that is big

1773
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:36,880
now this shot again from the second reel

1774
01:21:39,270 --> 01:21:38,320
um

1775
01:21:41,830 --> 01:21:39,280
is

1776
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,840
one of their friends goes out into the

1777
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,440
creek bed

1778
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:45,920
and stands there

1779
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,040
uh

1780
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:49,360
with a measuring stick

1781
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:50,239
and

1782
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:56,320
that's uh that's somebody that allegedly

1783
01:22:02,790 --> 01:21:59,360
i wasn't there that is six foot tall

1784
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:02,800
and you go back and you look at the

1785
01:22:07,910 --> 01:22:05,360
the patterson gimlin film

1786
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,920
uh the original shot now if you look

1787
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:08,960
here

1788
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,880
look at the size right and then you go

1789
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:12,800
back to this image

1790
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:15,360
and there's the tree

1791
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:18,639
okay it's this is the next day

1792
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:20,000
so

1793
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:22,840
i don't know man i'm i'm thinking seven

1794
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:25,280
foot maybe

1795
01:22:29,910 --> 01:22:27,280
a little taller but you can see the tree

1796
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,920
in the foreground and also the trees in

1797
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,080
the background and then you go back to

1798
01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:34,080
this other image

1799
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:37,600
and i'm thinking

1800
01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:43,910
i am

1801
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,080
with with this image in the film

1802
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:52,400
uh and all of the analysis

1803
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:55,040
that has been done it is generally

1804
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:57,920
accepted uh today that patty was

1805
01:23:01,990 --> 01:22:59,920
somewhere between six and a half and

1806
01:23:03,990 --> 01:23:02,000
seven and a half feet tall

1807
01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:04,000
bob gimlin

1808
01:23:09,510 --> 01:23:07,440
was only is only five foot five

1809
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,520
so it wasn't gambling in that suit if it

1810
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:11,360
was a suit all right so you can

1811
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:13,120
eliminate that

1812
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,880
um

1813
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:16,239
now

1814
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,310
there has been a lot made about the film

1815
01:23:28,790 --> 01:23:25,040
being a hoax

1816
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:28,800
and if it is a hoax that means

1817
01:23:32,830 --> 01:23:30,880
someone

1818
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:32,840
was wearing in an ape

1819
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,550
now

1820
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:40,159
every

1821
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,790
special effects makeup costume artist

1822
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:49,520
who has seen the film

1823
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:52,960
draw the same conclusions over and over

1824
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:54,320
again

1825
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:57,280
that if it's a costume it is the very

1826
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:58,239
best

1827
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,870
but most have said that they believe

1828
01:24:07,669 --> 01:24:05,120
that the bigfoot uh

1829
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:07,679
patterson film uh to be real that it's

1830
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,920
not a hoax you bring in these special

1831
01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:11,760
effects people they look at it you ask

1832
01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:13,199
them for their honest opinion and

1833
01:24:19,910 --> 01:24:16,159
they're like man i wish i could do that

1834
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:22,709
because if we take it to the next level

1835
01:24:28,830 --> 01:24:25,760
we have to uh put things

1836
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:28,840
in a little context here

1837
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:34,000
okay two films were made in 1968.

1838
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,199
patterson

1839
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:36,880
shot this film

1840
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,199
in 1967.

1841
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:42,400
two films were made in 1968 after the

1842
01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:44,480
patterson gimlin film

1843
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:46,880
planet of the apes

1844
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:56,719
groundbreaking film

1845
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,080
for sure i've watched it dozens of times

1846
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:01,920
we all have

1847
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,000
you know known for

1848
01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:06,800
its prosthetic makeup techniques by

1849
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,960
artist john chambers

1850
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:10,000
and

1851
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,040
audiences launching a film franchise

1852
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,760
including four sequels

1853
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,440
i really like battle of for the planet

1854
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,880
of the apes

1855
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,280
by the way as well as a short-lived

1856
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:25,120
television show

1857
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:29,360
and uh an animated series comic books

1858
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:32,719
the costumes took so long to make

1859
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:36,800
uh and were so expensive in 1968 that

1860
01:25:42,790 --> 01:25:40,320
they reused them for all four films and

1861
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:42,800
the television series and by the time

1862
01:25:47,910 --> 01:25:46,000
the television series came around

1863
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:47,920
the the face moldings and everything

1864
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:50,400
else they were just worn out

1865
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:53,600
but they were so good for the time and

1866
01:25:57,750 --> 01:25:55,520
had cost so much money they couldn't

1867
01:26:00,550 --> 01:25:57,760
repeat that cost over and over again so

1868
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:00,560
they reused everything in all of the

1869
01:26:05,750 --> 01:26:03,679
films and the television series right

1870
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:05,760
and uh but

1871
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:08,800
we all agree no matter what it was good

1872
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:11,120
for the times but

1873
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:13,360
none of the apes were believable

1874
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:16,560
this doesn't look believable

1875
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:19,600
right all painfully fake but nobody

1876
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:22,960
cared it was a great script

1877
01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,830
2001 a space odyssey stuart freeborn

1878
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:31,920
designed the ape costumes

1879
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:35,440
used in 2001 and stanley kubrick wanted

1880
01:26:39,910 --> 01:26:38,560
only the best and we all know how picky

1881
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:39,920
stanley is

1882
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:41,840
quite possibly the best director in the

1883
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:43,440
history of cinema

1884
01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:45,120
and we know this

1885
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,000
right

1886
01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:48,320
but he wanted only the best and he got

1887
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:51,199
the best for the time

1888
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:53,679
but stanley found out pretty quickly

1889
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,239
that you cannot just put out an ape suit

1890
01:27:01,750 --> 01:26:58,719
you know throw it on an actor and make

1891
01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:01,760
it all look real

1892
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:02,840
really it was

1893
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,600
awful but the scenes were great and then

1894
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:08,000
we forgave him you know you get past

1895
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:10,400
those opening moments of 2001 a space

1896
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,760
odyssey you know it's fake

1897
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,600
you know it's it's it's just the way

1898
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:17,040
that it is

1899
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:19,760
but you go back to the patterson gimlin

1900
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:21,679
film and you're just like wait a minute

1901
01:27:24,629 --> 01:27:22,639
here

1902
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,639
the best of the best were brought out

1903
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:26,400
for planet of the apes the best of the

1904
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:28,719
best were brought out for 2001 a space

1905
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:31,360
odyssey we got the best that they could

1906
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:34,960
do and it was nothing compared to what

1907
01:27:39,830 --> 01:27:37,520
was in the patterson-gimlin film

1908
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:39,840
so if planet of the apes and 2001 a

1909
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:41,600
space odyssey couldn't pull it off with

1910
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:43,120
huge budgets

1911
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,520
and the best makeup artist how did

1912
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:47,440
patterson and gimlin

1913
01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:51,520
shoot the best bigfoot film of all time

1914
01:27:55,830 --> 01:27:53,840
with no money

1915
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,840
on horseback

1916
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:57,679
in the middle of nowhere

1917
01:28:02,870 --> 01:28:00,480
i'm just saying

1918
01:28:07,030 --> 01:28:02,880
well it's probably because

1919
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:07,040
they shot an actual bigfoot that's why

1920
01:28:14,709 --> 01:28:12,629
this is fade to black i am your host

1921
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,719
jimmy church tonight

1922
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,080
kicking off

1923
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:18,400
night one of squatch week i'm doing a

1924
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,280
two and a half hour presentation

1925
01:28:25,669 --> 01:28:24,000
on bigfoot i've got over a hundred

1926
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:25,679
images here i'm gonna try to get them

1927
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:28,239
all in i've got a lot of information to

1928
01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:31,440
cover and then uh

1929
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:34,400
tomorrow night we've got duke sullivan

1930
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:37,199
of world bigfoot radio

1931
01:28:41,669 --> 01:28:38,639
wednesday night

1932
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:41,679
william lunsford that's night three

1933
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:42,880
three

1934
01:28:46,550 --> 01:28:44,880
of squatch week thursday night is

1935
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:46,560
another fader night with open lines all

1936
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:48,320
night long i'm you know jimmy church

1937
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,679
this is fade to black and the game

1938
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:52,000
changer in next networks

1939
01:28:57,110 --> 01:28:53,280
i'll be right back after this short

1940
01:29:11,510 --> 01:29:08,310
[Music]

1941
01:29:13,650 --> 01:29:11,520
way out here we listen to jimmy church

1942
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:13,660
you're listening to fade to black

1943
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,320
[Applause]

1944
01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,400
you're listening to jimmy church and

1945
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:19,920
fade to black

1946
01:29:25,090 --> 01:29:34,630
[Applause]

1947
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:36,950
[Music]

1948
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:38,880
the believer is the chilling true story

1949
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:41,280
of dr john mack a renowned harvard

1950
01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:43,600
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1951
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,159
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1952
01:29:51,270 --> 01:29:48,880
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1953
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:51,280
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1954
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,239
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1955
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,880
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1956
01:30:01,030 --> 01:29:59,120
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1957
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1958
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1959
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,679
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01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:06,960
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jimmy church this is revolution the

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight

2059
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2060
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on bigfoot kicking off squatch week here

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01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:10,719
on fade to black very excited tomorrow

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night duke sullivan wednesday night

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william lunsford and then thursday of

2064
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course is another fader night with open

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lines all night long

2066
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,629
i want to talk a little bit about famous

2067
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:26,239
hoaxes

2068
01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:27,520
and

2069
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:33,280
but also some of the

2070
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:35,440
images that people have been saying that

2071
01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:38,000
are hoax that i may not i may not

2072
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,239
subscribe to that there's something else

2073
01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:42,880
that will get to all of that here in

2074
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:44,880
this section of the show

2075
01:35:50,149 --> 01:35:47,920
um one of the cases now um i've been

2076
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:50,159
fascinated about this since i was a kid

2077
01:35:52,629 --> 01:35:51,440
because

2078
01:35:54,629 --> 01:35:52,639
uh

2079
01:35:57,270 --> 01:35:54,639
i had heard

2080
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:57,280
about this when i was very young and i

2081
01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:58,960
had seen

2082
01:36:05,430 --> 01:36:02,239
uh you know those supermarket tabloid

2083
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:05,440
newspapers uh of the past and

2084
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:08,000
and you would see photographs of uh

2085
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:11,440
bigfoot and and then there was uh

2086
01:36:16,709 --> 01:36:14,880
these images that i saw i was very young

2087
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:16,719
of uh this

2088
01:36:22,870 --> 01:36:19,760
bigfoot in a block of ice

2089
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:22,880
and i i've been captivated by this story

2090
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:25,840
ever since and of course i am talking

2091
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:27,040
about

2092
01:36:33,750 --> 01:36:29,360
the minnesota iceman

2093
01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:33,760
now in uh in this image here uh there

2094
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:34,880
are

2095
01:36:37,669 --> 01:36:35,840
uh

2096
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:37,679
quite a few images on the net but you

2097
01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:39,600
know getting high-res and and getting

2098
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:40,639
color

2099
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:43,280
and and getting correct ones um that's

2100
01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:45,040
what i'm showing here

2101
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:46,480
and

2102
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:53,199
uh the minnesota iceman um is a sideshow

2103
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:54,719
exhibit

2104
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:58,320
of this creature frozen in a block of

2105
01:37:02,470 --> 01:36:59,360
ice

2106
01:37:03,590 --> 01:37:02,480
it was displayed at shopping malls state

2107
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:03,600
fairs

2108
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:04,960
carnivals

2109
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:06,800
all around the united states and canada

2110
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:10,480
in the 1960s and early 1970s

2111
01:37:15,430 --> 01:37:14,639
and promoted as the missing link

2112
01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:15,440
now

2113
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:17,920
the minnesota iceman

2114
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:22,639
was sold on ebay in 2013

2115
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:25,040
uh and is now

2116
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:27,760
in austin texas some say it was alex

2117
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:30,080
jones uh that bought the iceman and alex

2118
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:32,560
has got him uh on display in his living

2119
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:35,040
room i can't i can't confirm that

2120
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,320
but uh

2121
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,320
but i guess it's on display somewhere in

2122
01:37:41,990 --> 01:37:40,000
austin texas

2123
01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,000
um the

2124
01:37:48,629 --> 01:37:44,560
the iceman promoter

2125
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:48,639
uh oh before i get to that um this is

2126
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:51,840
this is a drawing so when you go back to

2127
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:53,920
this image here

2128
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,000
okay look above the head you can see the

2129
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:58,320
arm curled around the top of the head

2130
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,040
and the other arm is across the chest

2131
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:03,360
those two light colored spots in the

2132
01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:06,560
middle those are the iceman's knees

2133
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:09,199
and this is a drawing

2134
01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:11,840
of uh on the left is a photograph on the

2135
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:15,199
right is a drawing of the position

2136
01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:17,360
uh the hands and you could see the two

2137
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:18,960
white spots

2138
01:38:22,950 --> 01:38:21,360
uh on the knees and that's what you're

2139
01:38:26,149 --> 01:38:22,960
looking at here

2140
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:26,159
so in the iceman images that i'm gonna

2141
01:38:29,030 --> 01:38:27,600
present here now you know the

2142
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,040
orientation

2143
01:38:32,709 --> 01:38:31,280
of everything okay and again here's the

2144
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:32,719
same shot

2145
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:36,880
uh hand uh over the top of the head the

2146
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:37,920
other one

2147
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,400
uh around the waist and abdomen and then

2148
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:42,239
the two white spots

2149
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:44,639
um on the knees this is another hi-res

2150
01:38:50,470 --> 01:38:47,040
image this is a fantastic

2151
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,480
image of the minnesota iceman

2152
01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,880
the iceman's promoter

2153
01:38:57,030 --> 01:38:54,320
and exhibitor

2154
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:57,040
was a man named frank hansen this is

2155
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:58,639
frank here

2156
01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:02,000
and he said the iceman was discovered in

2157
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:03,520
siberia

2158
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:06,960
and that he was acting as its caretaker

2159
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:10,960
for an absentee owner he described as an

2160
01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,800
eccentric california millionaire

2161
01:39:18,310 --> 01:39:16,480
not billionaire there wasn't any

2162
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:18,320
billionaires back then

2163
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:21,920
uh an eccentric california millionaire

2164
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:22,880
now

2165
01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:25,520
there were other stories going around

2166
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:28,400
about the origin of the iceman as well

2167
01:39:33,189 --> 01:39:31,920
and i've read and heard many of them and

2168
01:39:34,470 --> 01:39:33,199
one

2169
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:34,480
was that

2170
01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:37,679
it was shot in vietnam

2171
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,639
during the war by the united states army

2172
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:43,440
and then smuggled into the united states

2173
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:46,800
on a u.s air force mack flight

2174
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:49,920
and that story went around for for a

2175
01:39:56,870 --> 01:39:53,119
long time as well so

2176
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:56,880
the origins and and things i i simply do

2177
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:58,320
not know

2178
01:40:02,950 --> 01:40:00,800
uh the minnesota iceman appeared on the

2179
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:02,960
cover of argosy magazine

2180
01:40:09,350 --> 01:40:07,440
in april 1969 and in that issue

2181
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:09,360
it featured the headline

2182
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:10,880
is this

2183
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:14,159
the missing link between man

2184
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:16,560
and apes

2185
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:19,920
now primatologist john napier

2186
01:40:24,709 --> 01:40:22,480
was brought in to investigate for the

2187
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:24,719
smithsonian institution

2188
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:26,000
hanson

2189
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:28,400
suddenly withdrew the minnesota iceman

2190
01:40:34,109 --> 01:40:31,520
from public inspection after this saying

2191
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,119
it was on the orders from its

2192
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:36,719
california-based owner

2193
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:39,520
napier with the smithsonian made

2194
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:42,639
preliminary investigations and said that

2195
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:44,000
hanson

2196
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,080
had commissioned the creation of the

2197
01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:49,440
iceman from a west coast company

2198
01:40:53,270 --> 01:40:52,239
in 1967.

2199
01:40:59,510 --> 01:40:53,280
so

2200
01:41:02,229 --> 01:40:59,520
had a second

2201
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:02,239
uh he said a second body

2202
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:05,119
and started displaying that

2203
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:05,920
and

2204
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:08,239
upon uh

2205
01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:10,320
investigation napier

2206
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:12,000
and the smithsonian came to the

2207
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:13,520
conclusion

2208
01:41:19,109 --> 01:41:16,960
that it was the same not a second one

2209
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:19,119
but it was the same

2210
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,600
latex dummy that uh hanson had made by

2211
01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:26,159
this company in california

2212
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:28,159
and so

2213
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,440
that

2214
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:31,679
was withdrawn from display

2215
01:41:36,870 --> 01:41:34,080
we don't know which one was which

2216
01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:36,880
version was sold on ebay

2217
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:39,920
back in 2013.

2218
01:41:44,629 --> 01:41:42,080
now

2219
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:44,639
here's the deal

2220
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,639
sightings have gone on

2221
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:48,719
um all around the world

2222
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:52,159
and according to live science

2223
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:54,000
there have been over ten thousand

2224
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:56,159
reported bigfoot sightings in the

2225
01:42:00,229 --> 01:41:58,320
continental united states about

2226
01:42:02,149 --> 01:42:00,239
one-third of all claims of bigfoot

2227
01:42:04,870 --> 01:42:02,159
sightings are located in the pacific

2228
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:04,880
northwest with the remaining reports

2229
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,880
spread throughout the rest of north

2230
01:42:10,470 --> 01:42:08,000
america

2231
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:10,480
sightings mostly occur in the northwest

2232
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:12,880
in washington oregon northern california

2233
01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:15,760
and british columbia

2234
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:17,360
now with these sightings that get

2235
01:42:26,229 --> 01:42:21,440
reported we get these hoaxed images

2236
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,239
and now this one uh i think

2237
01:42:31,030 --> 01:42:28,800
it's hard to to chase this stuff down i

2238
01:42:33,350 --> 01:42:31,040
think this was shot in ohio i could be

2239
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:33,360
wrong there's a lot of bigfoot experts

2240
01:42:39,510 --> 01:42:35,679
that are watching this presentation

2241
01:42:41,830 --> 01:42:39,520
tonight and they know about these uh

2242
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:41,840
these these images and how they've been

2243
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:43,199
uh presented

2244
01:42:46,790 --> 01:42:45,199
um i was pretty excited about this when

2245
01:42:49,669 --> 01:42:46,800
i first saw it

2246
01:42:51,750 --> 01:42:49,679
um i think it was about uh a year maybe

2247
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:51,760
two years ago when when this one

2248
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:54,800
surfaced uh from a video

2249
01:43:00,470 --> 01:42:57,760
and uh pretty good but it turned out uh

2250
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,480
that i guess that was a hoax but it was

2251
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:02,719
pretty convincing to me at the time

2252
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:07,679
this uh was shot this was um a video

2253
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:08,719
and

2254
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,679
uh you can see these large animals in

2255
01:43:15,830 --> 01:43:14,400
the foreground and this bigfoot walking

2256
01:43:18,790 --> 01:43:15,840
around

2257
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:18,800
in the background and i guess again i'm

2258
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,960
not part of the team that debunks this

2259
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:22,560
stuff

2260
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,600
but apparently it was revealed that

2261
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:27,280
uh this was a hoax and it was a

2262
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:28,639
fantastic

2263
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,960
uh piece of footage i really enjoyed it

2264
01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:32,320
when it came out

2265
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:34,800
um this image here

2266
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:40,159
uh from a trail cam uh made the rounds

2267
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:43,679
and i guess uh

2268
01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:45,600
some professionals

2269
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:45,960
uh

2270
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:47,360
[Music]

2271
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:51,440
announced that this was a juvenile

2272
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:53,280
black bear

2273
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:55,360
with long legs

2274
01:43:59,350 --> 01:43:56,239
and

2275
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,360
now the more that i look at it i i can

2276
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:01,600
kind of see that because it looks like

2277
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:03,920
it's walking on all fours number one but

2278
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:05,520
number two it's the back and the way

2279
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:07,760
that the head is shaped

2280
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,480
this is the highest res version i could

2281
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:12,320
get of this image

2282
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:14,320
you can go out and find this on the net

2283
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:15,520
too as well and draw your own

2284
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:18,000
conclusions but certainly when you first

2285
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:21,920
look at it it looks like bigfoot and uh

2286
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:23,600
just one of those images now it's not

2287
01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:26,719
that it was hoaxed um but many thought

2288
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:30,080
it was bigfoot but i guess possibly it

2289
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:33,360
turned out to be a juvenile black bear

2290
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,199
now

2291
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:37,119
can't do a show without talking about

2292
01:44:40,149 --> 01:44:38,880
todd standing

2293
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:40,159
and

2294
01:44:45,109 --> 01:44:43,520
this image here uh we've all seen many

2295
01:44:46,229 --> 01:44:45,119
many times

2296
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:46,239
and

2297
01:45:07,030 --> 01:44:46,960
i

2298
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:07,040
um

2299
01:45:14,629 --> 01:45:08,560
i

2300
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:14,639
and

2301
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:21,840
are too good

2302
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:23,840
including this next one

2303
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:26,800
now when we when this when this image

2304
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,960
first hit

2305
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:31,199
i looked at that and went

2306
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:32,880
no

2307
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:38,080
and

2308
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,280
i thought to myself at that time i want

2309
01:45:45,109 --> 01:45:43,199
to keep my personal opinions out of this

2310
01:45:45,990 --> 01:45:45,119
but let me tell you how opinions can

2311
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:46,000
change

2312
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:47,679
i looked at this and went that is the

2313
01:45:51,590 --> 01:45:50,080
fakest thing i've ever seen

2314
01:45:53,910 --> 01:45:51,600
and then i just kind of went back and

2315
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:53,920
looked at it again

2316
01:46:01,270 --> 01:45:57,679
right

2317
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:01,280
and then i enlarged it and then i looked

2318
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:03,440
at others enlargements

2319
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:14,310
it looks authentic to me

2320
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,159
it just does

2321
01:46:20,070 --> 01:46:19,199
now either it's just too good

2322
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:20,080
and

2323
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:21,600
uh

2324
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:23,600
it's it's amazing makeup and it's

2325
01:46:30,310 --> 01:46:26,960
amazing photoshop or however it was done

2326
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:30,320
and cg computer graphics possibly

2327
01:46:34,950 --> 01:46:31,360
right

2328
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:34,960
but if it's just an image

2329
01:46:40,070 --> 01:46:37,360
that looks real to me

2330
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,080
it just does and it's the the the the

2331
01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:42,880
ridges on the nose and if you look deep

2332
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:46,560
in the eyes here as well the eyes are

2333
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:47,520
just

2334
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:55,280
fur is is on the face and and of course

2335
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:56,639
the lips

2336
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:59,040
and if that isn't convincing enough then

2337
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:01,440
you look at this image

2338
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:02,639
and

2339
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:04,480
i don't know

2340
01:47:10,390 --> 01:47:06,840
it's it's

2341
01:47:12,109 --> 01:47:10,400
it's too good to be fake

2342
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:12,119
right it's it's

2343
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:14,800
crystal clear

2344
01:47:24,149 --> 01:47:19,440
so is it and i understand

2345
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:24,159
um i i get it with everybody um that has

2346
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:25,520
uh

2347
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,840
struck down the the series of images

2348
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:29,520
that were you know from a a piece of

2349
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:30,480
video

2350
01:47:35,189 --> 01:47:31,520
and

2351
01:47:38,550 --> 01:47:35,199
it's the

2352
01:47:43,189 --> 01:47:41,270
and i'm the first one to go dude that is

2353
01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:43,199
that's lights in the trees that's that's

2354
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:45,440
uh that's that's a car

2355
01:47:50,229 --> 01:47:47,679
that's that's a bird in the sky that's

2356
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,239
this i i'm the first to do that because

2357
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:51,920
my eyes

2358
01:47:57,030 --> 01:47:54,960
are what i depend on

2359
01:47:59,910 --> 01:47:57,040
okay when i go back and i look at these

2360
01:48:02,470 --> 01:47:59,920
todd standing images

2361
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:02,480
that looks real to me

2362
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,040
all right now until todd comes out and

2363
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:09,600
shows the mask and and his buddy or how

2364
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,400
they did it in the cgi and he comes

2365
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:13,679
clean

2366
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:15,360
um i'm

2367
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:18,320
i'm convinced that that's a real image

2368
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,719
it just looks too good to me

2369
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,480
and and

2370
01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:24,800
i'll i'll take the criticism

2371
01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:27,119
i will i will take

2372
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:28,639
the criticism

2373
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:32,320
uh there has been lots of drone footage

2374
01:48:37,510 --> 01:48:35,199
uh you remember the video of the mom

2375
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:37,520
sasquatch with her baby

2376
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:40,320
um in in the river i wanted that to be

2377
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:41,280
real

2378
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:43,679
i did you know the drone footage

2379
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:46,320
sasquatch running across the the valley

2380
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,560
through the grass into the trees i want

2381
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,719
that to be real sasquatch running up the

2382
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:52,159
side of the mountain

2383
01:48:55,590 --> 01:48:53,920
you know it's crazy you know i want i

2384
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:55,600
want that to be real

2385
01:48:58,709 --> 01:48:57,199
i do

2386
01:49:01,510 --> 01:48:58,719
all right now

2387
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:01,520
with todd standing when i first saw the

2388
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:02,800
video and

2389
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:05,520
and i looked at the analysis of it i was

2390
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:08,239
like everybody else that is obviously

2391
01:49:10,470 --> 01:49:09,119
faked

2392
01:49:12,790 --> 01:49:10,480
but i've had

2393
01:49:15,430 --> 01:49:12,800
many opportunities to go back and look

2394
01:49:18,229 --> 01:49:15,440
at these photographs these still images

2395
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,239
of the videos and look at this

2396
01:49:23,990 --> 01:49:21,119
and it just looks authentic and i could

2397
01:49:24,950 --> 01:49:24,000
be i could be way off and i could be

2398
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,960
wrong

2399
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:27,119
so there you go i'm looking at some of

2400
01:49:31,109 --> 01:49:28,880
the comments i know that this

2401
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:31,119
i know that this is real because i've

2402
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:34,560
seen the same here in ontario

2403
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:36,000
um

2404
01:49:38,950 --> 01:49:37,119
uh

2405
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:38,960
all the hair is going the same way

2406
01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:43,840
though i know i know right right um but

2407
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:45,520
look how many

2408
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:47,920
how many dogs

2409
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:51,040
right have perfect hair never brushed

2410
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:54,560
you know short it's all in place

2411
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,880
right done and it doesn't grow you know

2412
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:00,480
think about that

2413
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:03,280
and you know so i don't know big pimple

2414
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:06,159
on the nose really i didn't see that

2415
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,320
i did not see that

2416
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:11,199
uh

2417
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:13,760
thinker tinker proved it's todd yeah

2418
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:16,320
okay all right well prove is a whole

2419
01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:18,480
that's a that's a strong word

2420
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:20,880
but but i i've i've seen a lot of the

2421
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:23,760
analysis uh that has been done on this

2422
01:50:28,149 --> 01:50:25,040
um so

2423
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:28,159
i i i just don't know i don't know

2424
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:30,480
i don't know it's a great image

2425
01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:32,000
it's a great image

2426
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:36,159
now um back to sightings uh around the

2427
01:50:43,910 --> 01:50:41,030
we've had according to data collected

2428
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:43,920
from the bigfoot field uh researchers

2429
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:46,560
organization bigfoot sightings

2430
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,360
uh and their database in 2021 washington

2431
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:53,840
has over 2 000 reported sightings

2432
01:50:58,229 --> 01:50:56,880
california over 1600 pennsylvania over

2433
01:51:01,830 --> 01:50:58,239
1300

2434
01:51:03,669 --> 01:51:01,840
new york and oregon just over 1 000

2435
01:51:07,350 --> 01:51:03,679
and texas

2436
01:51:11,510 --> 01:51:07,360
has just over 800.

2437
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,520
now in 1924 there was the battle

2438
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,440
of ape canyon

2439
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:16,159
and uh in the battle of vape canyon

2440
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:17,840
there's a uh

2441
01:51:23,350 --> 01:51:20,880
jeffrey jeffrey's great jeffrey meldrum

2442
01:51:27,510 --> 01:51:23,360
the battle of vape canyon where miners

2443
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:27,520
were attacked by a large hairy ate men

2444
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,400
that threw rocks onto their cabin roof

2445
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:32,560
from a nearby cliff after one of the

2446
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:35,679
miners shot one with a rifle

2447
01:51:41,510 --> 01:51:38,639
in folk arkansas of course in 1971 we

2448
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:41,520
have the the bogey creek monster a large

2449
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:44,159
hair covered creature uh startled a

2450
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:46,159
woman after reaching through a window in

2451
01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:48,480
1974 the new york times

2452
01:51:53,990 --> 01:51:50,480
presented the tale

2453
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,000
of albert ostman a canadian prospector

2454
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:56,800
who stated that he was kidnapped and

2455
01:52:02,470 --> 01:51:59,679
held captive by a family of bigfoot for

2456
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:02,480
six days in 1924

2457
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:06,400
in toba inlet up in british columbia

2458
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:09,440
then we have jeffrey melbourne meldrum

2459
01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,360
and he is a full professor of anatomy

2460
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,360
and anthropology in the department of

2461
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,920
biological sciences at idaho state

2462
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,199
university

2463
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:21,679
and he has been seeking answers about

2464
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:24,480
bigfoot for a few decades and he has one

2465
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:26,960
of the largest collections of footprint

2466
01:52:30,709 --> 01:52:29,280
castings from all around the world and

2467
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:30,719
he wrote the book

2468
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:32,080
sasquatch

2469
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,560
legend meets science in 2006. now

2470
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,000
i uh

2471
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:40,800
i i took part uh

2472
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:41,920
in

2473
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:43,040
uh

2474
01:52:49,109 --> 01:52:46,880
washington

2475
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:49,119
uh this was uh four years ago almost

2476
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,679
five years ago now i think it's 2017.

2477
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:54,239
it's 2022 five years ago

2478
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:55,280
and

2479
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:57,040
um

2480
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,239
three three kids three three young boys

2481
01:53:05,510 --> 01:53:02,320
were out goofing around in this field uh

2482
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:05,520
found this uh this big footprint came

2483
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:09,040
and got me and uh pulled me out there to

2484
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:11,920
go right there it was now i didn't i was

2485
01:53:16,470 --> 01:53:14,000
going to present all of that in the

2486
01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:16,480
images tonight but it's it's it's not

2487
01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:17,599
about me

2488
01:53:23,350 --> 01:53:19,440
but the point is

2489
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:23,360
uh we made two castings uh that weekend

2490
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:24,400
um

2491
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:25,440
and

2492
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:26,960
holding

2493
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:29,599
those casts and which were which were

2494
01:53:33,830 --> 01:53:30,880
big

2495
01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:33,840
holding them felt different than looking

2496
01:53:37,750 --> 01:53:35,440
at them

2497
01:53:39,750 --> 01:53:37,760
at the impressions at the footprints

2498
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:39,760
themselves because the castings come to

2499
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:40,960
life

2500
01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:42,159
and

2501
01:53:49,030 --> 01:53:46,639
jeffrey holding up one of his many

2502
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,040
castings that he has

2503
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:50,639
what do we do

2504
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:51,840
with this

2505
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:57,440
uh steve murillo

2506
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,800
called me up

2507
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:00,400
i was uh

2508
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:03,280
uh on my way to

2509
01:54:08,709 --> 01:54:06,239
uh shooting my tv series and i was in

2510
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:08,719
the back of a suv

2511
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:10,800
and he says man we just we just got this

2512
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:13,119
bigfoot casting and we were up in

2513
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:15,440
washington the same area where we saw

2514
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:18,960
ours uh the next year two years later

2515
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,280
and immediately we brought him onto the

2516
01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,520
tv show that day and he was a walk-on

2517
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:25,440
but he brought the cast with him

2518
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:28,560
and i was able to hold it in my hand

2519
01:54:30,310 --> 01:54:29,520
and

2520
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:30,320
uh

2521
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:32,000
the

2522
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:38,239
to see it in a positive form like you

2523
01:54:41,589 --> 01:54:39,360
would see

2524
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:41,599
from the bottom of a foot like you see

2525
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:42,719
here

2526
01:54:50,629 --> 01:54:47,119
okay so

2527
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:50,639
um these castings

2528
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,000
vary in size but but i i would say most

2529
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:55,679
are

2530
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:58,159
at least 16 inches and then upwards

2531
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:59,199
around

2532
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:00,960
2 feet

2533
01:55:04,229 --> 01:55:02,159
in size

2534
01:55:06,310 --> 01:55:04,239
there are a lot of large ones around the

2535
01:55:08,470 --> 01:55:06,320
world but what do we do

2536
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,480
with this evidence

2537
01:55:14,870 --> 01:55:11,280
that is presented every single year

2538
01:55:16,870 --> 01:55:14,880
including not only myself personally

2539
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:16,880
but friends of mine

2540
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:19,679
that have gone and and done uh this

2541
01:55:23,430 --> 01:55:20,960
process

2542
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,440
um i think it's it's interesting and

2543
01:55:27,589 --> 01:55:25,840
with uh jeffrey meldrum

2544
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:27,599
uh when he was a guest here on fade to

2545
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:28,719
black

2546
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:31,520
um you it gives you an opportunity to

2547
01:55:34,709 --> 01:55:32,960
look at

2548
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:34,719
bone structure

2549
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:38,400
the arch in the foot the heel the toes

2550
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:41,440
and the the actual anatomy of

2551
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:42,480
of what

2552
01:55:46,790 --> 01:55:45,520
this creature may be physically

2553
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:46,800
the weight

2554
01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:48,800
and the size of the creature can be

2555
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:50,960
determined from a lot of this

2556
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:55,119
and uh the way that they walk and

2557
01:56:01,830 --> 01:55:58,239
and and how far the gate is apart

2558
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:01,840
so you can you can draw all of this from

2559
01:56:06,149 --> 01:56:03,840
these castings

2560
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:06,159
and um

2561
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:08,560
i i had this up here for a lot of

2562
01:56:12,310 --> 01:56:10,960
different reasons but that is an amazing

2563
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:12,320
shot

2564
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:13,360
and

2565
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:14,560
uh i

2566
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,000
if that is from an actual creature and

2567
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:19,760
and not hoaxed

2568
01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:22,159
just look at that look at the toes now

2569
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:23,599
you would look at that and say well you

2570
01:56:27,669 --> 01:56:24,960
know it's only you know it's just a

2571
01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:27,679
couple inches uh bigger than

2572
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:29,760
than this normal human foot but look at

2573
01:56:35,270 --> 01:56:32,159
the width and look at the spacing and

2574
01:56:38,950 --> 01:56:35,280
the size of this foot

2575
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:38,960
it's uh it's it's amazing to me so

2576
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:42,880
uh coming up next um after the break uh

2577
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:45,040
we're going to get into

2578
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,560
uh the yeti

2579
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:49,440
and some other sightings around the

2580
01:56:55,270 --> 01:56:52,560
world and and footprints and casting

2581
01:56:57,910 --> 01:56:55,280
and the history of all of this

2582
01:57:02,629 --> 01:56:57,920
um the yeti uh to me

2583
01:57:04,709 --> 01:57:02,639
is is another part of the bigfoot story

2584
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:04,719
um different you know white the

2585
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:07,440
aboundable snowman we've got red fur

2586
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:10,400
dark fur blackfur brown fur

2587
01:57:15,510 --> 01:57:11,280
uh

2588
01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:15,520
versions of the yeti but that go back

2589
01:57:21,750 --> 01:57:18,639
a thousand or two years

2590
01:57:24,229 --> 01:57:21,760
and i've got lots of uh different

2591
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:24,239
reports that we're going to go over that

2592
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:26,080
have gone down for the last two three

2593
01:57:29,830 --> 01:57:28,080
400 years directly

2594
01:57:31,830 --> 01:57:29,840
uh from journals

2595
01:57:34,790 --> 01:57:31,840
from different explorers

2596
01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:34,800
and and things in and around india and

2597
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:37,440
nepal it's absolutely incredible the

2598
01:57:42,790 --> 01:57:40,560
yeti is next this is fade to black i am

2599
01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:42,800
your host jimmy church

2600
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squatch week here on fade to black

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that's right squatch week tonight is

2602
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night one

2603
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tomorrow night is night two

2604
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with

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duke solomon

2606
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wednesday night william lunsford i'm

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meryl chimney church we'll be right

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2696
02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:32,560
welcome back fade to black i am your

2697
02:02:36,470 --> 02:02:34,159
host jimmy church tonight night one of

2698
02:02:38,229 --> 02:02:36,480
squatch week

2699
02:02:39,510 --> 02:02:38,239
doing a two and a half hour presentation

2700
02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:39,520
tonight

2701
02:02:44,550 --> 02:02:41,520
i've still got a lot more to cover

2702
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:44,560
i'm gonna try to get it all in everybody

2703
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:46,400
i'm gonna try to get it all in

2704
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:49,920
i wanted to mention uh really quick

2705
02:02:55,510 --> 02:02:52,000
i was watching uh some of the comments

2706
02:02:57,990 --> 02:02:55,520
uh fly by uh very busy night in in the

2707
02:03:00,709 --> 02:02:58,000
chat room tonight but i wanna mention to

2708
02:03:01,830 --> 02:03:00,719
everybody uh go

2709
02:03:05,350 --> 02:03:01,840
and

2710
02:03:07,910 --> 02:03:05,360
uh check out john greenwald's uh

2711
02:03:09,109 --> 02:03:07,920
recent reporting on bigfoot over on the

2712
02:03:11,910 --> 02:03:09,119
black vault

2713
02:03:13,430 --> 02:03:11,920
which concerned uh and he talked about

2714
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:13,440
it here on fade to black it's very

2715
02:03:17,510 --> 02:03:14,400
interesting

2716
02:03:19,270 --> 02:03:17,520
and that was the national park ranger a

2717
02:03:22,790 --> 02:03:19,280
field manual

2718
02:03:23,990 --> 02:03:22,800
that had a page in it that stated very

2719
02:03:26,790 --> 02:03:24,000
clearly

2720
02:03:29,030 --> 02:03:26,800
that bigfoot was real that the fbi had

2721
02:03:33,430 --> 02:03:29,040
taken dna samples

2722
02:03:37,510 --> 02:03:33,440
and uh the dna samples came back

2723
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:37,520
and uh it was no known species uh here

2724
02:03:41,430 --> 02:03:39,360
on earth right okay

2725
02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:41,440
so there was that statement in the park

2726
02:03:45,990 --> 02:03:43,679
ranger field manual

2727
02:03:48,229 --> 02:03:46,000
john greenwald uh

2728
02:03:50,550 --> 02:03:48,239
with this information has the field

2729
02:03:51,990 --> 02:03:50,560
manual now he's able to do a freedom of

2730
02:03:54,830 --> 02:03:52,000
information act

2731
02:03:57,669 --> 02:03:54,840
document search on the

2732
02:03:59,510 --> 02:03:57,679
fbi's dna testing that was reported in

2733
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:59,520
the field manual

2734
02:04:01,589 --> 02:04:00,719
and

2735
02:04:04,229 --> 02:04:01,599
uh

2736
02:04:07,990 --> 02:04:04,239
the information came back

2737
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,000
from the government uh i i may have

2738
02:04:12,310 --> 02:04:10,400
some of the facts backwards but the

2739
02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:12,320
bottom line is

2740
02:04:18,229 --> 02:04:14,800
the dna testing

2741
02:04:22,870 --> 02:04:19,669
that's right

2742
02:04:26,149 --> 02:04:22,880
that's that's the fbi's answer

2743
02:04:29,750 --> 02:04:26,159
uh to this but it was stated in the u.s

2744
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:29,760
government park ranger field manual

2745
02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:33,199
um so there you go and uh john

2746
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:35,520
greenwald's reporting on this

2747
02:04:40,790 --> 02:04:37,920
is fantastic and you can go over to the

2748
02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:40,800
black vault and just do a search

2749
02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:43,360
right there very easy to do

2750
02:04:48,149 --> 02:04:45,440
and you can look at john's reporting on

2751
02:04:49,030 --> 02:04:48,159
this over the last cop a couple of

2752
02:04:49,990 --> 02:04:49,040
months

2753
02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:50,000
all right

2754
02:04:54,229 --> 02:04:52,560
now let's get to the yeti

2755
02:04:55,830 --> 02:04:54,239
and uh

2756
02:04:57,910 --> 02:04:55,840
there we go

2757
02:05:03,669 --> 02:04:57,920
the yeti

2758
02:05:06,950 --> 02:05:03,679
himalayan mountain range uh in asia

2759
02:05:08,390 --> 02:05:06,960
all over uh the himalayan mountain range

2760
02:05:11,109 --> 02:05:08,400
is huge

2761
02:05:12,229 --> 02:05:11,119
uh largely unexplored

2762
02:05:14,950 --> 02:05:12,239
um

2763
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:14,960
and i guess we can say that

2764
02:05:17,189 --> 02:05:15,840
uh

2765
02:05:23,830 --> 02:05:17,199
the

2766
02:05:27,350 --> 02:05:23,840
um in in asia

2767
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,360
but here in the united states it is

2768
02:05:32,149 --> 02:05:29,360
commonly known as

2769
02:05:33,270 --> 02:05:32,159
the abominable snowman

2770
02:05:35,669 --> 02:05:33,280
that's right

2771
02:05:38,790 --> 02:05:35,679
and now

2772
02:05:40,310 --> 02:05:38,800
before you start laughing

2773
02:05:42,229 --> 02:05:40,320
all of us

2774
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:42,239
i grew up

2775
02:05:46,149 --> 02:05:44,320
with rudolph the red-nosed reindeer

2776
02:05:47,830 --> 02:05:46,159
christmas rolls around you're watching

2777
02:05:49,350 --> 02:05:47,840
all those christmas specials charlie

2778
02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:49,360
brown christmas you're watching all that

2779
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:50,400
stuff

2780
02:05:54,870 --> 02:05:53,840
and you go and you watch this

2781
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:54,880
and

2782
02:06:00,709 --> 02:05:56,480
the

2783
02:06:01,669 --> 02:06:00,719
of america

2784
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:01,679
were

2785
02:06:06,550 --> 02:06:04,880
introduced to the abominable snowman and

2786
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:06,560
and i

2787
02:06:12,149 --> 02:06:09,440
i i took this as fact

2788
02:06:13,229 --> 02:06:12,159
i did man i'm four years old i'm five

2789
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:13,239
years old

2790
02:06:20,470 --> 02:06:16,320
1968 69 70

2791
02:06:22,870 --> 02:06:20,480
71 72 i still watch this as an adult i

2792
02:06:27,589 --> 02:06:22,880
love it it is great

2793
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:27,599
and that is the abominable snowman

2794
02:06:32,149 --> 02:06:29,119
yeah

2795
02:06:34,790 --> 02:06:32,159
i had to do that that's for me all right

2796
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:34,800
um tibetan lore

2797
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:38,320
describes three main varieties of yetis

2798
02:06:44,629 --> 02:06:42,239
the uh nalamo uh which is black uh uh

2799
02:06:47,430 --> 02:06:44,639
has black fur is the largest in the

2800
02:06:49,990 --> 02:06:47,440
fiercest standing around 15 feet tall

2801
02:06:52,069 --> 02:06:50,000
the chuti which stands around eight feet

2802
02:06:54,790 --> 02:06:52,079
tall and lives around eight thousand and

2803
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:54,800
ten thousand feet above sea level

2804
02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:57,520
and the rain shim bombo which has

2805
02:07:04,310 --> 02:06:59,360
reddish brown hair

2806
02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:04,320
and is only three to five feet tall

2807
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:07,599
in russian folklore the chichuna

2808
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:11,119
is an entity said to dwell in siberia it

2809
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:13,599
has been described as six to seven feet

2810
02:07:17,270 --> 02:07:14,400
tall

2811
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:17,280
and covered with dark hair

2812
02:07:22,629 --> 02:07:20,639
the name abominable snowman was coined

2813
02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:22,639
in 1921

2814
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:24,719
the year lieutenant colonel charles

2815
02:07:31,189 --> 02:07:28,480
howard bury led the 1921 british mount

2816
02:07:33,669 --> 02:07:31,199
everest reconnaissance expedition

2817
02:07:35,750 --> 02:07:33,679
which he wrote about in mount everest

2818
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:35,760
the book mount everest the

2819
02:07:40,870 --> 02:07:38,960
reconnaissance 1921 in the book

2820
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,880
howard murray says

2821
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:43,679
he found footprints that he believed

2822
02:07:49,350 --> 02:07:47,760
were probably caused by a large loping

2823
02:07:51,669 --> 02:07:49,360
gray wolf

2824
02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:51,679
which in the soft snow form double

2825
02:07:56,069 --> 02:07:55,119
tracks rather like those of a barefooted

2826
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:56,079
man

2827
02:08:00,629 --> 02:07:58,320
this was from his book

2828
02:08:01,910 --> 02:08:00,639
his sherpa guides though

2829
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:01,920
told him

2830
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,199
that the tracks must be that of

2831
02:08:09,830 --> 02:08:07,119
the wild man

2832
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:09,840
of the snows

2833
02:08:16,709 --> 02:08:13,280
all of this in his book in 1832

2834
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:16,719
james princip's journal of the asiatic

2835
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:18,719
society of bengal

2836
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:22,800
published trekker b h hodgson's account

2837
02:08:29,589 --> 02:08:26,239
of his experiences in northern nepal

2838
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:29,599
his local guide spotted a tall bipedal

2839
02:08:35,830 --> 02:08:33,440
creature covered with long dark hair

2840
02:08:36,430 --> 02:08:35,840
that was in 1832

2841
02:08:37,990 --> 02:08:36,440
in

2842
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:38,000
1925

2843
02:08:44,470 --> 02:08:41,440
n.a tombazi a photographer and a member

2844
02:08:47,109 --> 02:08:44,480
of the royal geographical society

2845
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:47,119
writes that he saw a creature at about

2846
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:50,480
15 000 feet above sea level

2847
02:08:56,149 --> 02:08:53,119
near zemu glacier

2848
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:56,159
tembazi said that he observed the

2849
02:09:03,350 --> 02:09:00,800
creature from about 200 to 300 yards

2850
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:03,360
for about a minute

2851
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:04,400
again

2852
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:08,239
fifteen thousand feet now zemu glacier

2853
02:09:13,510 --> 02:09:11,520
um pops up a lot when it comes to uh

2854
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:13,520
different yeti sightings

2855
02:09:18,229 --> 02:09:15,760
um in the himalayas

2856
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,239
it's very interesting but tambazi's

2857
02:09:23,109 --> 02:09:20,239
report

2858
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:23,119
was was pretty direct he said man i was

2859
02:09:27,270 --> 02:09:26,000
at 15 000 feet i'm an i'm a photographer

2860
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:27,280
i'm a member of the national

2861
02:09:33,109 --> 02:09:29,520
geographical society and i'm here to

2862
02:09:35,830 --> 02:09:33,119
tell you i observed this creature from

2863
02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:35,840
only 200 yards away i was right there

2864
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,760
and i watched it

2865
02:09:42,470 --> 02:09:40,320
for over a minute

2866
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:42,480
while attempting to scale mount everest

2867
02:09:47,750 --> 02:09:44,639
in 1951

2868
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:47,760
eric shipton took photographs of a

2869
02:09:54,069 --> 02:09:50,880
number of large prints in the snow

2870
02:09:56,149 --> 02:09:54,079
at about 20 000 feet

2871
02:09:57,830 --> 02:09:56,159
above sea level

2872
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:57,840
then you have peter byrne

2873
02:10:01,629 --> 02:10:00,079
peterburn reported finding a yeti

2874
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:01,639
footprint in

2875
02:10:08,470 --> 02:10:06,079
1948 in northern shekim india near the

2876
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:08,480
zemu glacier once again

2877
02:10:14,629 --> 02:10:11,199
and he was on holiday from a royal air

2878
02:10:16,550 --> 02:10:14,639
force assignment in india

2879
02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:16,560
they have one of the most uh famous

2880
02:10:22,229 --> 02:10:19,040
cases um of all

2881
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:22,239
which was this in 1953

2882
02:10:29,189 --> 02:10:25,199
sir edmund hillary yes

2883
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:29,199
sir edmund hillary and tenzig nargae

2884
02:10:36,149 --> 02:10:32,239
reported uh seeing large footprints

2885
02:10:38,790 --> 02:10:36,159
while scaling mount everest

2886
02:10:43,589 --> 02:10:39,910
scala

2887
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:43,599
roxas said in his book the long walk

2888
02:10:49,589 --> 02:10:46,719
which was published in 1956

2889
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:49,599
that as he and some others were crossing

2890
02:10:56,709 --> 02:10:53,280
the himalayas in the winter of 1940

2891
02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:56,719
their path was blocked their path was

2892
02:11:01,510 --> 02:11:00,239
blocked for hours they couldn't continue

2893
02:11:05,189 --> 02:11:01,520
why

2894
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:05,199
two bipedal upright animals

2895
02:11:08,790 --> 02:11:06,239
that were

2896
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:08,800
doing seemingly nothing

2897
02:11:15,030 --> 02:11:12,239
but shuffling and playing around

2898
02:11:18,709 --> 02:11:15,040
in the snow

2899
02:11:20,709 --> 02:11:18,719
it's an incredible incredible case now

2900
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:20,719
footprints have been

2901
02:11:26,069 --> 02:11:23,360
cited and photographed and reported up

2902
02:11:26,950 --> 02:11:26,079
there for a couple of hundred years

2903
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:26,960
and

2904
02:11:30,390 --> 02:11:28,719
uh it seems like every time somebody

2905
02:11:31,189 --> 02:11:30,400
goes to everest

2906
02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:31,199
uh

2907
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,599
somewhere up there zemu glacier

2908
02:11:38,069 --> 02:11:35,760
somewhere in the himalayas footprints

2909
02:11:39,910 --> 02:11:38,079
are found

2910
02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:39,920
it was in

2911
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:41,840
2019

2912
02:11:47,430 --> 02:11:44,960
an indian army

2913
02:11:49,830 --> 02:11:47,440
mountaineering expedition team

2914
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:49,840
claimed to have spotted mysterious yeti

2915
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:53,840
footprints but these footprints were 32

2916
02:11:58,790 --> 02:11:56,079
by 15 inches

2917
02:12:01,350 --> 02:11:58,800
near the makalou base camp

2918
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,360
here is another shot of those footprints

2919
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,040
you can see how big they are the human

2920
02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:05,119
footprints are going left to right and

2921
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:08,320
those are the yeti footprints going off

2922
02:12:11,109 --> 02:12:09,360
over

2923
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,119
uh the horizon

2924
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:13,199
and uh now

2925
02:12:22,870 --> 02:12:21,350
let's talk a little bigfoot and ufos

2926
02:12:23,910 --> 02:12:22,880
because

2927
02:12:27,030 --> 02:12:23,920
uh

2928
02:12:29,830 --> 02:12:27,040
the diatolive pass incident

2929
02:12:33,109 --> 02:12:29,840
is one of the most incredible stories uh

2930
02:12:35,430 --> 02:12:33,119
officially investigated by the

2931
02:12:36,629 --> 02:12:35,440
the russian and soviet union whatever

2932
02:12:38,069 --> 02:12:36,639
you want to call it back then it was the

2933
02:12:40,790 --> 02:12:38,079
soviet union

2934
02:12:41,830 --> 02:12:40,800
um the kgb was brought in uh they've

2935
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:41,840
done

2936
02:12:46,709 --> 02:12:45,119
uh two official investigations into this

2937
02:12:49,910 --> 02:12:46,719
most of

2938
02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:49,920
the results of these uh investigations

2939
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:53,119
have remained classified they've only

2940
02:12:57,990 --> 02:12:56,239
let portions of it out

2941
02:12:59,030 --> 02:12:58,000
okay um

2942
02:13:01,990 --> 02:12:59,040
back

2943
02:13:03,270 --> 02:13:02,000
we're gonna say it was about six years

2944
02:13:04,629 --> 02:13:03,280
ago

2945
02:13:07,669 --> 02:13:04,639
we had uh

2946
02:13:09,030 --> 02:13:07,679
uh some relatives that were visiting

2947
02:13:12,069 --> 02:13:09,040
from russia

2948
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:12,079
who lived in this general area

2949
02:13:19,189 --> 02:13:16,880
and i brought in to the studio

2950
02:13:20,629 --> 02:13:19,199
uh this gentleman i only met him that

2951
02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:20,639
one time

2952
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:21,440
uh

2953
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:26,159
um

2954
02:13:29,510 --> 02:13:27,760
and

2955
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:29,520
i had to have a translator i can't

2956
02:13:32,629 --> 02:13:31,520
remember if we put this on fade to black

2957
02:13:33,750 --> 02:13:32,639
or not

2958
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:33,760
uh

2959
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:36,159
may if we did maybe some of you remember

2960
02:13:40,870 --> 02:13:38,480
anyway so i interviewed him

2961
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:40,880
about diablo pass

2962
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:45,280
and he told me some uh pretty incredible

2963
02:13:51,430 --> 02:13:48,000
stories about it and one of them

2964
02:13:53,270 --> 02:13:51,440
uh was that everybody believes that

2965
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:53,280
there is

2966
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:54,239
some

2967
02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:57,440
yeti type bigfoot creature

2968
02:14:01,109 --> 02:13:58,560
uh

2969
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:01,119
creatures that live up there

2970
02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:04,000
um that there are parts of this mountain

2971
02:14:08,550 --> 02:14:06,159
that you just don't go in

2972
02:14:11,430 --> 02:14:08,560
um that bad things happen

2973
02:14:13,270 --> 02:14:11,440
and that's exactly what happened with

2974
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:13,280
diatlov pass

2975
02:14:16,950 --> 02:14:14,560
um

2976
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:16,960
he also talked to me about

2977
02:14:20,790 --> 02:14:19,599
the ufo sightings that happened up there

2978
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:20,800
all the time

2979
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:23,599
and that definitely

2980
02:14:28,390 --> 02:14:27,199
that uh that weekend uh when diatlov and

2981
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,400
his friends

2982
02:14:34,709 --> 02:14:30,560
went up for this expedition

2983
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:34,719
that there were ufos sighted in the sky

2984
02:14:41,589 --> 02:14:38,079
um uh all week uh leading up to the

2985
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:41,599
incident and that the military was seen

2986
02:14:45,109 --> 02:14:43,679
in the area too as well

2987
02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:45,119
and that everybody thought that the

2988
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:46,639
military

2989
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:47,599
um

2990
02:14:56,310 --> 02:14:52,069
that the military was there

2991
02:14:59,189 --> 02:14:56,320
investigating the ufos now um

2992
02:15:02,550 --> 02:14:59,199
here here's a series of of pictures

2993
02:15:03,910 --> 02:15:02,560
this is the crew um and remember these

2994
02:15:06,550 --> 02:15:03,920
are all friends

2995
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:06,560
and this incident uh

2996
02:15:09,589 --> 02:15:08,480
nine friends

2997
02:15:11,189 --> 02:15:09,599
uh

2998
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:11,199
that died

2999
02:15:16,149 --> 02:15:14,239
in the northern ural mountains and uh

3000
02:15:17,910 --> 02:15:16,159
this went down between the first and

3001
02:15:19,910 --> 02:15:17,920
second of february

3002
02:15:23,270 --> 02:15:19,920
in 1959

3003
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:23,280
and uh to this day i guess we can say

3004
02:15:28,069 --> 02:15:25,199
everything is is

3005
02:15:30,550 --> 02:15:28,079
is unresolved and uncertain so let's

3006
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:30,560
just go with that nobody knows what

3007
02:15:35,510 --> 02:15:33,520
happened the experienced trekking group

3008
02:15:36,629 --> 02:15:35,520
was from the euro poly technical

3009
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:36,639
institute

3010
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:37,760
led by

3011
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:39,599
igor diatlov

3012
02:15:44,830 --> 02:15:43,119
and he had uh established a camp on the

3013
02:15:48,470 --> 02:15:44,840
eastern slopes of the

3014
02:15:52,069 --> 02:15:48,480
kolatsakol of the soviet union

3015
02:15:54,149 --> 02:15:52,079
overnight something caused them to cut

3016
02:15:56,790 --> 02:15:54,159
their way out

3017
02:15:57,589 --> 02:15:56,800
of uh their tent

3018
02:16:01,109 --> 02:15:57,599
and

3019
02:16:03,510 --> 02:16:01,119
uh

3020
02:16:06,229 --> 02:16:03,520
nobody was dressed

3021
02:16:08,950 --> 02:16:06,239
nobody there was heavy uh snowfall there

3022
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:08,960
was sub-zero temperatures nobody put on

3023
02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:11,040
their clothes their pants their coats

3024
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:13,280
their gloves their shoes

3025
02:16:17,669 --> 02:16:15,840
they just ran for their lives

3026
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:17,679
and cut their way

3027
02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:19,280
out of the tents

3028
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:20,320
um

3029
02:16:23,189 --> 02:16:22,320
and and here they are

3030
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:23,199
the

3031
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:27,520
me

3032
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:30,320
of the outlook pass and and this

3033
02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:31,520
incident

3034
02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:32,399
was

3035
02:16:36,950 --> 02:16:34,639
they all had cameras with them and they

3036
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:36,960
had all documented everything they were

3037
02:16:40,629 --> 02:16:38,960
experienced mountain trekkers and they

3038
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:40,639
were happy to be together and they were

3039
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:43,200
going on this this expedition together

3040
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:44,719
they were just kids

3041
02:16:49,830 --> 02:16:46,880
you know and and all of the pictures on

3042
02:16:52,309 --> 02:16:49,840
their cameras just showed a bunch of

3043
02:16:53,429 --> 02:16:52,319
smiling faces here they are in the back

3044
02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:53,439
of a truck

3045
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:56,960
on their way uh to to the site to begin

3046
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:59,280
their trek and as you can see everybody

3047
02:17:02,629 --> 02:17:01,200
is just happy

3048
02:17:08,469 --> 02:17:02,639
after

3049
02:17:11,030 --> 02:17:08,479
uh an investigation the first one by

3050
02:17:12,870 --> 02:17:11,040
soviet authorities determined that

3051
02:17:16,469 --> 02:17:12,880
six of them

3052
02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:16,479
had died from hypothermia while the

3053
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:19,359
other three had been killed by physical

3054
02:17:23,190 --> 02:17:21,200
trauma

3055
02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:23,200
one victim

3056
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:26,399
had major skull damage

3057
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:29,840
two had severe chest trauma and another

3058
02:17:35,509 --> 02:17:33,040
had a small crack in his skull

3059
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:35,519
four the bodies were found lying in

3060
02:17:41,910 --> 02:17:38,719
running water in a creek

3061
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:41,920
three of these four had damaged soft

3062
02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:42,960
tissue

3063
02:17:52,389 --> 02:17:45,439
of the head and face

3064
02:17:59,270 --> 02:17:54,469
think about that

3065
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:59,280
one had their tongue cut out

3066
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:00,719
and one

3067
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:03,040
had their eyebrows

3068
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:05,040
shaved

3069
02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:07,679
the investigation concluded

3070
02:18:11,429 --> 02:18:09,599
that uh

3071
02:18:13,110 --> 02:18:11,439
something compelling

3072
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:13,120
something natural

3073
02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:15,280
had caused the deaths now what does that

3074
02:18:18,469 --> 02:18:16,399
mean

3075
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:18,479
right bigfoot

3076
02:18:22,150 --> 02:18:20,800
some some creature

3077
02:18:25,349 --> 02:18:22,160
you know and

3078
02:18:28,469 --> 02:18:25,359
to have the eyes removed

3079
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:28,479
now these are very strange your eyebrows

3080
02:18:33,190 --> 02:18:31,120
shave your tongue cut out

3081
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:33,200
very strange and

3082
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:36,399
and remember uh whatever

3083
02:18:44,150 --> 02:18:38,800
caused their deaths

3084
02:18:49,910 --> 02:18:47,589
the kids clawed and cut their ways out

3085
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:49,920
of the tents

3086
02:18:53,910 --> 02:18:51,760
nearly naked

3087
02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:53,920
and and and ran for their lives and were

3088
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:57,200
chased down and killed

3089
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:59,599
it's an extraordinary case

3090
02:19:03,910 --> 02:19:00,639
um

3091
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:03,920
when you look at uh the

3092
02:19:10,709 --> 02:19:07,519
the campsite as as it was left behind

3093
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,719
that's what was found

3094
02:19:15,990 --> 02:19:12,800
and all of this documented you can see

3095
02:19:20,230 --> 02:19:16,000
here how the tent was shredded

3096
02:19:25,429 --> 02:19:23,990
this is uh one of the um

3097
02:19:29,030 --> 02:19:25,439
uh pictures

3098
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:29,040
uh from the diatlov site and that is a

3099
02:19:36,309 --> 02:19:31,359
lantern

3100
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:38,309
it's uh

3101
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:40,479
it's incredible to me

3102
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:42,960
it's incredible there are reports of

3103
02:19:45,830 --> 02:19:44,880
lights in the sky in the days before the

3104
02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:45,840
incident

3105
02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:48,160
there was also the reports of military

3106
02:19:54,309 --> 02:19:50,479
activity in the area

3107
02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:54,319
possibly connected to the ufo sightings

3108
02:20:04,150 --> 02:19:58,950
one of the

3109
02:20:07,429 --> 02:20:04,160
that uh

3110
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:07,439
that is often reported uh during a bid

3111
02:20:12,550 --> 02:20:09,040
foot sighting

3112
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:12,560
is a ufo sighting just before or after

3113
02:20:16,469 --> 02:20:14,800
contact and i've always found this

3114
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:16,479
interesting and compelling

3115
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:18,880
you know and and is this what happened

3116
02:20:21,910 --> 02:20:21,040
at diablo pass

3117
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:21,920
you know

3118
02:20:28,150 --> 02:20:25,040
nobody nobody knows for sure

3119
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:28,160
um but the case is still unresolved uh

3120
02:20:33,030 --> 02:20:30,160
to this day

3121
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:33,040
um but this starts to raise the other

3122
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:35,760
questions is bigfoot biological or is it

3123
02:20:40,389 --> 02:20:39,520
possibly interdimensional is it both

3124
02:20:42,070 --> 02:20:40,399
um

3125
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:42,080
i have always been on the fence when it

3126
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:45,920
comes to bigfoot or what bigfoot may be

3127
02:20:49,750 --> 02:20:47,439
but over the years i've kind of

3128
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:49,760
gravitated towards something

3129
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:51,280
interdimensional

3130
02:20:56,150 --> 02:20:53,520
and when i do that something pulls me

3131
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:56,160
back in in the other way

3132
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:57,600
um

3133
02:21:01,349 --> 02:20:58,640
uh

3134
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:01,359
is it is it possible there are

3135
02:21:04,389 --> 02:21:03,520
books that have been written

3136
02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:04,399
uh

3137
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:09,920
and that they

3138
02:21:14,389 --> 02:21:12,880
are a species that that comes from an

3139
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:14,399
another planet

3140
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:17,040
uh that were transported here their

3141
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:19,920
planet uh wasn't livable anymore

3142
02:21:24,469 --> 02:21:22,319
and then and they had to get here

3143
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:24,479
um now that

3144
02:21:29,190 --> 02:21:26,720
that thought process

3145
02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:29,200
sounds too

3146
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:30,960
too sci-fi

3147
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:33,520
it sounds too made up

3148
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:35,840
but then we have to look at the other

3149
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,880
aspects of a bigfoot and the way these

3150
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:40,399
sightings have happened

3151
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:42,160
all around the world we're talking about

3152
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,800
the isle of pass right now um but we

3153
02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:47,280
have uh yeti and we have bigfoot all

3154
02:21:51,590 --> 02:21:49,200
across the united states there's been

3155
02:21:53,110 --> 02:21:51,600
sightings everywhere every country

3156
02:21:55,349 --> 02:21:53,120
um

3157
02:21:56,389 --> 02:21:55,359
which don't have a body

3158
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:56,399
right

3159
02:22:01,750 --> 02:21:59,760
i ask the same questions that everybody

3160
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:01,760
else does

3161
02:22:07,110 --> 02:22:05,280
like first you know where's the body

3162
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:07,120
where's the body

3163
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,120
a corpse

3164
02:22:14,950 --> 02:22:11,920
right bones

3165
02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:14,960
right why hasn't one been hit by a car

3166
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:16,240
yet

3167
02:22:19,270 --> 02:22:17,840
and

3168
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:19,280
before

3169
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:23,200
answers i just want you to stop and

3170
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:24,880
think about

3171
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:27,520
those situations because

3172
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:30,160
you can drive down any road

3173
02:22:34,870 --> 02:22:32,240
you can drive down any highway and

3174
02:22:37,270 --> 02:22:34,880
you're going to drive past roadkill of

3175
02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:37,280
all kinds

3176
02:22:43,110 --> 02:22:40,080
i spent a lot of time in northern

3177
02:22:45,110 --> 02:22:43,120
california and especially just recently

3178
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:45,120
and i'm here to tell you

3179
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:47,920
you drive around in northern california

3180
02:22:52,950 --> 02:22:49,439
during the day

3181
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,960
and you see elk you see deer you see

3182
02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:54,080
bears

3183
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:57,280
out in the open

3184
02:23:01,910 --> 02:22:59,359
drive drive down the road you look into

3185
02:23:04,790 --> 02:23:01,920
a field and see a herd of elk have you

3186
02:23:07,590 --> 02:23:04,800
ever seen that in person it's crazy and

3187
02:23:10,710 --> 02:23:07,600
it's all over northern california

3188
02:23:12,790 --> 02:23:10,720
and so you look at that kind of wildlife

3189
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:12,800
and that's during the day

3190
02:23:17,830 --> 02:23:15,200
and the first thing

3191
02:23:19,910 --> 02:23:17,840
that you do as the sun sets and and

3192
02:23:20,870 --> 02:23:19,920
you're driving around in the darkness up

3193
02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:20,880
there

3194
02:23:26,150 --> 02:23:24,080
is you're thinking about wait a minute

3195
02:23:28,469 --> 02:23:26,160
i saw all of those deer today today i

3196
02:23:31,110 --> 02:23:28,479
saw all of those bear today i saw all of

3197
02:23:33,830 --> 02:23:31,120
those elk and what can jump out in front

3198
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:33,840
of my car in the darkness and you have

3199
02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:36,160
to be prepared for this and that is what

3200
02:23:39,429 --> 02:23:37,359
you do

3201
02:23:41,349 --> 02:23:39,439
up in northern california certainly

3202
02:23:43,750 --> 02:23:41,359
throughout the country but i'm talking

3203
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:43,760
about my own personal experience

3204
02:23:50,070 --> 02:23:47,600
and you drive around and you see

3205
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:50,080
roadkill you see it everywhere and i

3206
02:23:53,910 --> 02:23:52,240
don't want to have a baby deer jump in

3207
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:53,920
front of my car i can't tell you how

3208
02:23:59,190 --> 02:23:56,319
many times i've rounded the corner and

3209
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,200
standing next to a tree is a mom a deer

3210
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:01,520
and and the little baby deer looking at

3211
02:24:06,389 --> 02:24:03,920
me and i have to stop my car i don't

3212
02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:06,399
want anybody and i creep by at a half a

3213
02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:09,040
mile an hour to make sure that i get in

3214
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:11,120
and around the deer and everything is

3215
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:12,080
fine

3216
02:24:14,790 --> 02:24:12,960
that's

3217
02:24:16,070 --> 02:24:14,800
what happens

3218
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:16,080
so

3219
02:24:21,429 --> 02:24:19,040
where is the same situation

3220
02:24:22,950 --> 02:24:21,439
with bigfoot

3221
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:22,960
how come

3222
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:26,800
we haven't got the body now there are

3223
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:29,760
there are uh yes deer will take out your

3224
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:32,399
car you yes it will

3225
02:24:36,389 --> 02:24:33,760
um

3226
02:24:37,990 --> 02:24:36,399
uh i know that there are those out there

3227
02:24:39,349 --> 02:24:38,000
you know bigfoot's too smart it's not

3228
02:24:40,870 --> 02:24:39,359
gonna jump out in front of a car well

3229
02:24:42,870 --> 02:24:40,880
you know humans are pretty smart too and

3230
02:24:45,990 --> 02:24:42,880
they get hit by cars every single day

3231
02:24:47,830 --> 02:24:46,000
i've been hit by a car twice

3232
02:24:49,990 --> 02:24:47,840
myself personally

3233
02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:50,000
and as smart as i like to think i am i

3234
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:51,680
still managed

3235
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:53,280
to get hit by a car

3236
02:24:57,510 --> 02:24:56,240
so to say that bigfoot is too smart for

3237
02:25:00,710 --> 02:24:57,520
that no

3238
02:25:02,429 --> 02:25:00,720
so what am i suggesting here

3239
02:25:05,830 --> 02:25:02,439
is it that there's an

3240
02:25:10,389 --> 02:25:05,840
interdimensional aspect to this

3241
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:10,399
i have seen uh over and over again with

3242
02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:12,479
my own eyes

3243
02:25:19,030 --> 02:25:16,800
bigfoot tracks that start and stop

3244
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:19,040
you know and so how can it be that you

3245
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:21,040
have a fresh set of tracks in front of

3246
02:25:24,309 --> 02:25:21,920
you

3247
02:25:26,389 --> 02:25:24,319
that just start and there's nothing in

3248
02:25:28,389 --> 02:25:26,399
front of it nothing

3249
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:28,399
and then the tracks and then they just

3250
02:25:33,030 --> 02:25:30,640
stop over here

3251
02:25:35,670 --> 02:25:33,040
what what's going on now does this turn

3252
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:35,680
around and resolve these questions

3253
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:38,399
right because you know that you have

3254
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:39,840
people that will try to answer these

3255
02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:41,600
questions with you know well you know

3256
02:25:44,550 --> 02:25:42,720
man uh

3257
02:25:45,990 --> 02:25:44,560
you know you know check this out church

3258
02:25:48,870 --> 02:25:46,000
man you know uh

3259
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:48,880
you don't find bears bones you know you

3260
02:25:54,309 --> 02:25:51,520
don't find deer bones you don't find

3261
02:25:55,910 --> 02:25:54,319
monkey bones in the forest man you just

3262
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:55,920
don't do it they don't exist man so why

3263
02:26:01,030 --> 02:25:57,920
would you see bigfoot bones well you

3264
02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:01,040
know what normally you don't see

3265
02:26:03,990 --> 02:26:02,399
bear

3266
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:04,000
skeletons

3267
02:26:09,190 --> 02:26:06,880
or deer or monkeys whatever

3268
02:26:11,910 --> 02:26:09,200
normally you don't but

3269
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:11,920
we have found them

3270
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:15,040
thousands of times

3271
02:26:21,349 --> 02:26:18,960
not once not twice it's not rare

3272
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:21,359
it happens all the time now it's not to

3273
02:26:26,230 --> 02:26:24,160
say that every that every single deer

3274
02:26:27,750 --> 02:26:26,240
that dies you're gonna find the carcass

3275
02:26:29,349 --> 02:26:27,760
in the woods every single one no of

3276
02:26:31,429 --> 02:26:29,359
course that's not the case and that's

3277
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:31,439
same thing with elk and and and

3278
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:33,280
everything else i get that i understand

3279
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:36,960
that but we have still found them

3280
02:26:43,910 --> 02:26:42,230
so where is

3281
02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:43,920
the bigfoot

3282
02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:45,760
corpse

3283
02:26:50,710 --> 02:26:48,960
where are the bigfoot bones

3284
02:26:52,429 --> 02:26:50,720
i don't know

3285
02:26:55,429 --> 02:26:52,439
is it an

3286
02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:55,439
inter-dimensional situation

3287
02:27:00,630 --> 02:26:58,640
now um somebody had said to me

3288
02:27:02,070 --> 02:27:00,640
uh i can't remember who it was it might

3289
02:27:03,830 --> 02:27:02,080
have been too

3290
02:27:05,830 --> 02:27:03,840
duke i'm not putting you on the spot i

3291
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:05,840
i've seen him in the chat room here

3292
02:27:09,429 --> 02:27:06,720
um

3293
02:27:11,190 --> 02:27:09,439
but somebody had said to me oh but

3294
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:11,200
they have uh

3295
02:27:15,830 --> 02:27:12,960
no i don't think it was dude they have

3296
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,150
when

3297
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:21,670
i mean somebody tell me look um no the

3298
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:24,080
you know the the agencies will come and

3299
02:27:29,510 --> 02:27:27,439
and and they they'll track you and and

3300
02:27:33,190 --> 02:27:29,520
you know that it's like the men in black

3301
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:33,200
and and you can never go pop look

3302
02:27:39,670 --> 02:27:36,080
let me tell you how it is

3303
02:27:42,309 --> 02:27:39,680
if i find a bigfoot corpse

3304
02:27:45,510 --> 02:27:42,319
i am bringing that thing

3305
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:45,520
straight onto a live stream

3306
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:48,160
i'm not driving anywhere i'm not doing

3307
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:51,200
anything i am live streaming to the

3308
02:27:54,469 --> 02:27:52,880
world

3309
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:54,479
that's what i'm doing

3310
02:28:01,670 --> 02:27:57,520
i'll drive the corpse away later but

3311
02:28:02,630 --> 02:28:01,680
right that i am live streaming

3312
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:02,640
so

3313
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:04,560
that's it

3314
02:28:10,630 --> 02:28:07,840
i'll be a martyr if i if i'm going to be

3315
02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:10,640
picked up by the bigfoot men in black

3316
02:28:14,070 --> 02:28:12,640
i'll be the martyr why hasn't that

3317
02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:14,080
happened

3318
02:28:18,790 --> 02:28:16,800
we have all of this evidence we have uh

3319
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:18,800
the footprints

3320
02:28:22,870 --> 02:28:20,640
i guess there's been dna samples

3321
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:22,880
obviously the fbi did theirs

3322
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:25,600
um and and this has happened this this

3323
02:28:29,190 --> 02:28:27,920
part is for real but we don't have a

3324
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:29,200
body

3325
02:28:34,309 --> 02:28:31,680
is it because

3326
02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:34,319
we have to go into the full wu spectrum

3327
02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:35,200
here

3328
02:28:42,230 --> 02:28:38,479
that bigfoot is inter-dimensional

3329
02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:42,240
is that possible i i'm i'm i keep

3330
02:28:45,910 --> 02:28:43,840
getting pulled

3331
02:28:47,830 --> 02:28:45,920
into that side of things

3332
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:47,840
there's too much of this phenomena too

3333
02:28:51,750 --> 02:28:50,080
many sightings too many things

3334
02:28:54,630 --> 02:28:51,760
too much has happened

3335
02:28:57,110 --> 02:28:54,640
to just dismiss this as

3336
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:57,120
uh just a crazy psychosis and it's just

3337
02:29:01,830 --> 02:28:58,800
made up and people are having fun with

3338
02:29:03,750 --> 02:29:01,840
this and and that's the end of it no no

3339
02:29:06,070 --> 02:29:03,760
no these sightings and and the

3340
02:29:08,070 --> 02:29:06,080
footprints of things have have gone back

3341
02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:08,080
for hundreds of years all around the

3342
02:29:14,710 --> 02:29:10,960
world we just haven't had the body

3343
02:29:18,309 --> 02:29:16,230
inter-dimensional

3344
02:29:20,630 --> 02:29:18,319
and i'm okay with that

3345
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:20,640
so i'm still i'm still in the middle i'm

3346
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:23,680
still on the fence but that's where i

3347
02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:26,160
think that there's a definite connection

3348
02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:28,560
between ufos

3349
02:29:33,510 --> 02:29:31,920
and bigfoot am i suggesting that ufos

3350
02:29:35,670 --> 02:29:33,520
are dropping off bigfoot and picking

3351
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:35,680
them up yeah that's a possibility

3352
02:29:39,830 --> 02:29:37,680
chewbacca is

3353
02:29:41,510 --> 02:29:39,840
israel right that's part of the star

3354
02:29:43,190 --> 02:29:41,520
wars documentary

3355
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:43,200
i don't think those were science fiction

3356
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:45,120
films but you have that

3357
02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:47,120
right and what's wrong everybody loves

3358
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:50,720
chewbacca right nobody questions that an

3359
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:52,800
alien could possibly look like that

3360
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:55,840
another species from another planet so

3361
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:57,680
why not

3362
02:30:01,429 --> 02:29:59,760
it's possible and the connections are

3363
02:30:04,389 --> 02:30:01,439
just too

3364
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:04,399
too too many they happen too often

3365
02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:07,120
including with with friends of mine

3366
02:30:10,870 --> 02:30:10,000
so with that uh i'm gonna take a quick

3367
02:30:13,429 --> 02:30:10,880
break

3368
02:30:14,950 --> 02:30:13,439
and uh when i come back i'm gonna open

3369
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:14,960
up the phone lines

3370
02:30:19,510 --> 02:30:17,600
and uh take your phone calls this is

3371
02:30:20,389 --> 02:30:19,520
fade to black i am your host jimmy

3372
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:20,399
church

3373
02:30:24,630 --> 02:30:22,720
tonight is night one

3374
02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:24,640
of squatch week

3375
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:26,640
and that is

3376
02:30:29,349 --> 02:30:27,520
my

3377
02:30:32,870 --> 02:30:29,359
two hours

3378
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:32,880
and open up the phone lines to all of

3379
02:30:38,790 --> 02:30:33,840
you

3380
02:30:40,790 --> 02:30:38,800
think interdimensional real what's going

3381
02:30:43,620 --> 02:30:40,800
on

3382
02:30:54,360 --> 02:30:43,630
find out after the break stay with me

3383
02:30:55,660 --> 02:30:54,370
[Music]

3384
02:31:03,670 --> 02:30:55,670
[Applause]

3385
02:31:07,349 --> 02:31:05,830
you're listening to jimmy church and

3386
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fade to black

3387
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hey what up y'all should go biblical fox

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here and you are listening to my boy

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jimmy church on jimmychurchradio.com

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despite popular opinion

3392
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reading a book will not make you smarter

3393
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hello fader knots jimmy church here

3394
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3484
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:50,080
[Music]

3485
02:35:58,230 --> 02:35:55,830
welcome back fade to black i am your

3486
02:36:01,349 --> 02:35:58,240
host jimmy church

3487
02:36:02,820 --> 02:36:01,359
tonight night one of the squatch week

3488
02:36:04,389 --> 02:36:02,830
here on fade to black

3489
02:36:05,910 --> 02:36:04,399
[Music]

3490
02:36:08,150 --> 02:36:05,920
and uh

3491
02:36:10,150 --> 02:36:08,160
i uh

3492
02:36:12,150 --> 02:36:10,160
it's weird i had time that to be two and

3493
02:36:14,309 --> 02:36:12,160
a half hours and i'm just so excited and

3494
02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:14,319
i just blew through all of it and

3495
02:36:19,349 --> 02:36:17,040
and uh so there you go i've opened up

3496
02:36:21,670 --> 02:36:19,359
the phone lines i've got calls on hold

3497
02:36:24,230 --> 02:36:21,680
um eight one eight nine two one six nine

3498
02:36:27,349 --> 02:36:24,240
two nine or three two three two seven

3499
02:36:28,550 --> 02:36:27,359
five nine six nine five

3500
02:36:33,910 --> 02:36:28,560
and

3501
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,920
um i also um i had mentioned earlier so

3502
02:36:39,190 --> 02:36:35,520
i have uh

3503
02:36:40,389 --> 02:36:39,200
i have these images here from uh

3504
02:36:44,469 --> 02:36:40,399
my

3505
02:36:47,590 --> 02:36:44,479
experience but

3506
02:36:50,469 --> 02:36:47,600
our uh big footprint uh

3507
02:36:51,610 --> 02:36:50,479
uh sighting that we had up in washington

3508
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,620
and um

3509
02:36:55,030 --> 02:36:53,200
[Music]

3510
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:55,040
here is

3511
02:36:58,870 --> 02:36:56,160
uh

3512
02:37:00,070 --> 02:36:58,880
the images the these are

3513
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:00,080
uh

3514
02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:05,680
that's fader one and fader two that's

3515
02:37:10,389 --> 02:37:07,680
phoenix and that's jax

3516
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:10,399
um everybody as has grown up jax now is

3517
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:12,479
like 18 years old he's got a driver's

3518
02:37:17,429 --> 02:37:14,560
license that scares me

3519
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:17,439
um here i think he's about 12 11 12

3520
02:37:21,190 --> 02:37:18,960
years old i've known jax for a long time

3521
02:37:23,590 --> 02:37:21,200
he's the one wearing the fade to black

3522
02:37:26,710 --> 02:37:23,600
t-shirt here i am pointing

3523
02:37:28,710 --> 02:37:26,720
at uh the footprint and of course that

3524
02:37:33,190 --> 02:37:28,720
is jason quit

3525
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:33,200
jason quit happened to be with us um

3526
02:37:38,150 --> 02:37:34,640
with uh

3527
02:37:41,349 --> 02:37:38,160
his uh very professional

3528
02:37:43,510 --> 02:37:41,359
uh video equipment and we shot uh for

3529
02:37:45,270 --> 02:37:43,520
this this week that we were up there a

3530
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:45,280
variety of different things

3531
02:37:51,670 --> 02:37:48,880
but when these four pulled me over there

3532
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:51,680
and i uh observed the f i couldn't

3533
02:37:55,030 --> 02:37:52,720
believe

3534
02:37:57,670 --> 02:37:55,040
uh what i was looking at and i had

3535
02:38:00,870 --> 02:37:57,680
immediately i mean i was confused i was

3536
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:00,880
confused to see a footprint that big i'm

3537
02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:02,880
going to show it to you in a second but

3538
02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:06,160
i immediately uh got on the phone

3539
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:08,000
and i called jason i said dude grab your

3540
02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:08,960
camera

3541
02:38:13,349 --> 02:38:11,600
and and get over here and so that's what

3542
02:38:16,389 --> 02:38:13,359
you're looking at there

3543
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:16,399
this um next image

3544
02:38:21,510 --> 02:38:19,920
um is a shot of the footprint

3545
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:21,520
and you can see

3546
02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:24,479
uh this is from the video still

3547
02:38:29,349 --> 02:38:28,319
uh this is 2018. so it's uh four years

3548
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:29,359
ago

3549
02:38:32,710 --> 02:38:30,720
wow

3550
02:38:34,710 --> 02:38:32,720
four years ago in a couple of days this

3551
02:38:37,910 --> 02:38:34,720
was august 12th

3552
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:37,920
uh 2018.

3553
02:38:41,270 --> 02:38:39,600
you can see the toes you can see the

3554
02:38:45,030 --> 02:38:41,280
heel you can

3555
02:38:47,270 --> 02:38:45,040
uh i mean i i couldn't believe

3556
02:38:49,030 --> 02:38:47,280
what i was looking at

3557
02:38:51,670 --> 02:38:49,040
and i

3558
02:38:53,190 --> 02:38:51,680
this was about two inches into the dirt

3559
02:38:55,910 --> 02:38:53,200
hard packed dirt

3560
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:55,920
uh you can see all of the grass uh

3561
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:57,280
crushed

3562
02:39:01,590 --> 02:38:59,840
um you can see the arch

3563
02:39:04,070 --> 02:39:01,600
you can see absolutely everything

3564
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:04,080
perfectly crystal clear

3565
02:39:08,230 --> 02:39:06,479
it wasn't uh

3566
02:39:11,510 --> 02:39:08,240
you know i'm looking at the image now

3567
02:39:14,790 --> 02:39:11,520
and i just get chills um when i think

3568
02:39:17,349 --> 02:39:14,800
about it and my my reaction was

3569
02:39:20,550 --> 02:39:17,359
i was just completely confused

3570
02:39:22,710 --> 02:39:20,560
um we'll come back to these images

3571
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:22,720
uh in just a second i want to get to uh

3572
02:39:28,950 --> 02:39:24,640
some phone calls how you're live on fade

3573
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:30,950
you're live

3574
02:39:36,230 --> 02:39:34,800
oh can you hear me yes

3575
02:39:43,429 --> 02:39:36,240
can you hear me

3576
02:39:46,309 --> 02:39:43,439
yes okay good don't scare me like that

3577
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:46,319
i wasn't sure um yeah it's gigi what's

3578
02:39:52,630 --> 02:39:50,800
up man oh gg what's up man how you doing

3579
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:52,640
fantastic how about yourself can you

3580
02:39:57,750 --> 02:39:54,880
hear me now

3581
02:40:00,389 --> 02:39:57,760
yes absolutely okay good good good

3582
02:40:02,469 --> 02:40:00,399
so what's up gg oh

3583
02:40:04,309 --> 02:40:02,479
well one thing i wanted to added uh

3584
02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:04,319
wanted to add to the

3585
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:06,640
diatoma pass incident

3586
02:40:11,190 --> 02:40:09,520
is um i mean everything is pretty crazy

3587
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:11,200
there right the missing eyeballs you

3588
02:40:15,030 --> 02:40:12,880
know cutting out the tent from the

3589
02:40:16,469 --> 02:40:15,040
inside no clothes i mean everything's

3590
02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:16,479
pretty

3591
02:40:21,030 --> 02:40:18,560
i mean it's just like what the hell but

3592
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:21,040
the most what the hell thing to me

3593
02:40:26,230 --> 02:40:23,359
that i i'm not maybe i missed it or

3594
02:40:28,389 --> 02:40:26,240
maybe didn't bring it up was um

3595
02:40:30,790 --> 02:40:28,399
you know those bodies that had those

3596
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:30,800
frat you know the the crushed skulls and

3597
02:40:37,670 --> 02:40:35,439
the crushed uh ribs and whatnot um the

3598
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:37,680
craziest part about those discoveries

3599
02:40:41,429 --> 02:40:39,840
was there was no exterior from the

3600
02:40:43,830 --> 02:40:41,439
research i've done i've come across this

3601
02:40:45,510 --> 02:40:43,840
multiple times apparently there was no

3602
02:40:47,190 --> 02:40:45,520
exterior

3603
02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:47,200
wounds in other words there was no

3604
02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:50,160
bruise there was no marks on the outside

3605
02:40:55,429 --> 02:40:52,640
it's as if some sort of force

3606
02:40:58,150 --> 02:40:55,439
just sort of crushed their bones

3607
02:41:00,469 --> 02:40:58,160
and uh after all these kind of crazy

3608
02:41:02,710 --> 02:41:00,479
discoveries i believe the chief examiner

3609
02:41:05,190 --> 02:41:02,720
or whatever his title was

3610
02:41:07,830 --> 02:41:05,200
i believe he resigned from his position

3611
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:07,840
um either during or just after

3612
02:41:11,269 --> 02:41:09,439
uh the conclusions to all that because

3613
02:41:13,429 --> 02:41:11,279
he just you know because they attributed

3614
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:13,439
all to hypothermia right

3615
02:41:16,710 --> 02:41:14,880
and uh

3616
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:16,720
and i i was just wondering if you've if

3617
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:19,040
you have heard of that part

3618
02:41:24,309 --> 02:41:22,560
yes yes i have and uh so let me comment

3619
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:24,319
you made about five different points

3620
02:41:28,790 --> 02:41:26,800
there gigi all excellent ones

3621
02:41:31,429 --> 02:41:28,800
um so let me just kind of pick that

3622
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:31,439
apart for a second um

3623
02:41:35,269 --> 02:41:32,560
why

3624
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:35,279
in the very beginning

3625
02:41:40,469 --> 02:41:38,720
why bring in the kgb

3626
02:41:43,349 --> 02:41:40,479
right why do you bring in why do you

3627
02:41:47,030 --> 02:41:43,359
bring in the cia right why do you bring

3628
02:41:49,510 --> 02:41:47,040
in the kgb why isn't this a local

3629
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:49,520
um if it's hypothermia and we're going

3630
02:41:54,389 --> 02:41:51,439
to come back to that in a second if it

3631
02:41:57,190 --> 02:41:54,399
was an avalanche why bring in the kgb

3632
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:57,200
isn't this just a local

3633
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:59,920
law enforcement issue a local medical

3634
02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:01,279
examiner

3635
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:02,560
and

3636
02:42:07,590 --> 02:42:04,560
the kids were out hiking there was an

3637
02:42:09,269 --> 02:42:07,600
avalanche and they died of hypothermia

3638
02:42:11,269 --> 02:42:09,279
that's that's pretty much case closed

3639
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:11,279
accidents happen right

3640
02:42:16,309 --> 02:42:13,359
so why bring in the kgb

3641
02:42:19,349 --> 02:42:16,319
and why make this uh a secret

3642
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:19,359
investigation and why keep your results

3643
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:21,520
secret for so many years

3644
02:42:28,309 --> 02:42:24,840
um that that's a very interesting part

3645
02:42:29,910 --> 02:42:28,319
second hypothermia

3646
02:42:32,710 --> 02:42:29,920
is

3647
02:42:34,790 --> 02:42:32,720
uh the cause of death for all of them

3648
02:42:35,590 --> 02:42:34,800
probably right

3649
02:42:37,990 --> 02:42:35,600
but

3650
02:42:39,429 --> 02:42:38,000
you were you were beat

3651
02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:39,439
unconscious

3652
02:42:43,110 --> 02:42:41,920
and then left in the snow or left in a

3653
02:42:45,190 --> 02:42:43,120
creek

3654
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:45,200
to die of hypothermia

3655
02:42:49,670 --> 02:42:46,720
but that doesn't

3656
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:49,680
hypothermia didn't attack the tents

3657
02:42:53,630 --> 02:42:52,160
right hypothermia didn't crush the

3658
02:42:55,269 --> 02:42:53,640
skulls

3659
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,279
hypothermia

3660
02:43:00,230 --> 02:42:57,840
is the excuse

3661
02:43:01,990 --> 02:43:00,240
uh with all of this because they don't

3662
02:43:04,309 --> 02:43:02,000
want to reveal

3663
02:43:05,910 --> 02:43:04,319
what actually happened how did they get

3664
02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:05,920
attacked how did their skull how did

3665
02:43:09,830 --> 02:43:07,600
their eyes get cut out who cut out their

3666
02:43:11,590 --> 02:43:09,840
tongues who's shaving eyebrows you know

3667
02:43:14,550 --> 02:43:11,600
who beat them to death

3668
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:14,560
um you know what happened what happened

3669
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:16,960
outside of those tents

3670
02:43:23,750 --> 02:43:19,680
right that was so crazy

3671
02:43:25,750 --> 02:43:23,760
that they clawed their that it was safer

3672
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:25,760
outside of the tent

3673
02:43:32,710 --> 02:43:29,120
in the snow in sub-zero weather

3674
02:43:34,469 --> 02:43:32,720
than in the tents in your sleeping bags

3675
02:43:35,990 --> 02:43:34,479
give me that answer that answer is not

3676
02:43:39,030 --> 02:43:36,000
hypothermia

3677
02:43:41,110 --> 02:43:39,040
right that's the opposite of that gigi

3678
02:43:43,750 --> 02:43:41,120
so what was it

3679
02:43:46,309 --> 02:43:43,760
that uh all nine

3680
02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:46,319
all nine exited their tents and ran for

3681
02:43:52,309 --> 02:43:48,880
their lives and and got beat

3682
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:52,319
and and and and their skulls crushed

3683
02:43:56,469 --> 02:43:54,160
um tortured

3684
02:43:57,550 --> 02:43:56,479
right what who who did that and how did

3685
02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:57,560
that happen

3686
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:00,960
hypothermia can be applied to this um

3687
02:44:04,389 --> 02:44:02,319
because

3688
02:44:05,750 --> 02:44:04,399
somebody was lying face down in the snow

3689
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:05,760
with the crushed skull and their

3690
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:07,359
eyeballs cut out

3691
02:44:10,710 --> 02:44:09,680
and then they froze the the body was

3692
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:10,720
frozen

3693
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:11,520
so

3694
02:44:16,070 --> 02:44:12,960
that's that's the that's where

3695
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:16,080
hypothermia comes in but hypothermia had

3696
02:44:19,590 --> 02:44:18,399
nothing to do with them leaving their

3697
02:44:21,990 --> 02:44:19,600
tents

3698
02:44:24,710 --> 02:44:22,000
you know what i mean so how do how do

3699
02:44:25,910 --> 02:44:24,720
you explain this and that is why the kgb

3700
02:44:29,030 --> 02:44:25,920
was brought in

3701
02:44:29,990 --> 02:44:29,040
and now you also have the other reports

3702
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:30,000
um

3703
02:44:34,469 --> 02:44:31,680
that went on

3704
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,479
about lights in the sky and ufos and the

3705
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:36,640
military being there

3706
02:44:41,510 --> 02:44:40,240
uh probably for the ufo activity

3707
02:44:44,230 --> 02:44:41,520
we don't know

3708
02:44:46,870 --> 02:44:44,240
but this is a very remote area in the

3709
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:46,880
ural mountains so what was the military

3710
02:44:52,309 --> 02:44:49,359
doing there um there were lights in the

3711
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:52,319
sky uh that were seen and then the

3712
02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:55,600
incident happened after that was all of

3713
02:44:59,750 --> 02:44:57,439
this connected

3714
02:45:04,150 --> 02:44:59,760
you know uh it it seems like a pretty

3715
02:45:08,070 --> 02:45:06,070
yeah i mean this is truly one of the

3716
02:45:10,150 --> 02:45:08,080
most uh

3717
02:45:12,309 --> 02:45:10,160
mysterious modern

3718
02:45:13,910 --> 02:45:12,319
mysteries uh

3719
02:45:16,389 --> 02:45:13,920
i feel like i i've always been so

3720
02:45:18,870 --> 02:45:16,399
fascinated by this case and there's

3721
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:18,880
really not enough good

3722
02:45:21,910 --> 02:45:20,399
i mean you can kind of look up some

3723
02:45:24,309 --> 02:45:21,920
stuff on youtube but there's not really

3724
02:45:25,670 --> 02:45:24,319
a good doc you know a good documentary

3725
02:45:28,550 --> 02:45:25,680
about this there is actually have you

3726
02:45:31,269 --> 02:45:28,560
ever seen the devil's pass

3727
02:45:33,910 --> 02:45:31,279
the science fiction movie

3728
02:45:36,230 --> 02:45:33,920
yeah yeah that's loosely based yeah yeah

3729
02:45:38,710 --> 02:45:36,240
yeah i thought it was great up until the

3730
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:38,720
end they kind of had that twist kind of

3731
02:45:41,830 --> 02:45:40,160
ruined the whole thing now you're

3732
02:45:43,030 --> 02:45:41,840
talking about if we're talking about the

3733
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:43,040
same movie

3734
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:45,040
uh they had the

3735
02:45:51,030 --> 02:45:48,640
the underground ufo research facility

3736
02:45:53,190 --> 02:45:51,040
next next to it yeah yeah that's the

3737
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:53,200
same movie right

3738
02:45:56,389 --> 02:45:54,960
yeah yeah yeah

3739
02:45:58,150 --> 02:45:56,399
you're right you're right though it was

3740
02:45:59,910 --> 02:45:58,160
good until the end it was pretty cool

3741
02:46:01,670 --> 02:45:59,920
actually

3742
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:01,680
yeah it was and then the end i was just

3743
02:46:05,269 --> 02:46:04,000
like oh man what are you guys doing

3744
02:46:08,389 --> 02:46:05,279
but uh

3745
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:08,399
but yeah very fascinating case and uh i

3746
02:46:14,950 --> 02:46:11,200
highly implore anybody to um explore

3747
02:46:17,670 --> 02:46:14,960
that um also uh before uh we get to some

3748
02:46:19,110 --> 02:46:17,680
other callers um i did want to mention

3749
02:46:20,870 --> 02:46:19,120
uh i know you've got duke sullivan

3750
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:20,880
coming on great dude i've talked to him

3751
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:24,000
before uh he's the best uh but another

3752
02:46:27,190 --> 02:46:25,920
person i'd like to suggest is bart

3753
02:46:29,110 --> 02:46:27,200
cutino

3754
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:29,120
if you've ever heard of him

3755
02:46:33,750 --> 02:46:32,000
uh another great bigfoot researcher

3756
02:46:34,870 --> 02:46:33,760
that i was turned on to that i've talked

3757
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:34,880
to also

3758
02:46:39,510 --> 02:46:38,080
and um and one of the things that we

3759
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:39,520
talked about

3760
02:46:44,150 --> 02:46:42,479
that i brought up to him was and i want

3761
02:46:45,030 --> 02:46:44,160
to bring up to you as well

3762
02:46:47,429 --> 02:46:45,040
is

3763
02:46:49,349 --> 02:46:47,439
so the patterson gimlin footage

3764
02:46:52,309 --> 02:46:49,359
um

3765
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:52,319
it look i i'm pretty much sold on it

3766
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:56,800
except for one thing and uh that is

3767
02:47:02,710 --> 02:47:00,000
in fact the first image you showed of

3768
02:47:03,910 --> 02:47:02,720
the patterson footage was a perfect the

3769
02:47:05,750 --> 02:47:03,920
very first image i don't know if you

3770
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:05,760
could pull that back up or not uh if

3771
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:09,359
that's if that's easy enough um but

3772
02:47:14,550 --> 02:47:12,800
it it looks pretty

3773
02:47:17,349 --> 02:47:14,560
it really looks like there's some kind

3774
02:47:20,389 --> 02:47:17,359
of shoe or a sole on the foot have you

3775
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:20,399
ever noticed that what is that well but

3776
02:47:27,110 --> 02:47:25,040
if you look at if you look at actual uh

3777
02:47:29,670 --> 02:47:27,120
primate feet

3778
02:47:30,710 --> 02:47:29,680
um which i'll pull up this image right

3779
02:47:32,070 --> 02:47:30,720
here

3780
02:47:36,230 --> 02:47:32,080
uh

3781
02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:36,240
live stream you can see it here i mean

3782
02:47:39,349 --> 02:47:38,160
what do you what do you

3783
02:47:41,030 --> 02:47:39,359
that looks

3784
02:47:43,750 --> 02:47:41,040
like it is

3785
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:43,760
the same thing that is in the bottom of

3786
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:45,680
now you're talking about

3787
02:47:49,990 --> 02:47:48,160
let me let me pull back here you're

3788
02:47:52,389 --> 02:47:50,000
talking about

3789
02:47:55,190 --> 02:47:52,399
uh the very first thing yeah now i have

3790
02:47:56,710 --> 02:47:55,200
the high res image

3791
02:47:58,150 --> 02:47:56,720
here so

3792
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:58,160
are you talking about

3793
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:03,750
uh i'll have to you know the youtube is

3794
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:05,920
okay wait a minute wait a minute wait a

3795
02:48:09,030 --> 02:48:07,840
minute let me let me back up a little

3796
02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:09,040
further

3797
02:48:16,550 --> 02:48:13,680
um you might be talking about

3798
02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:16,560
it was the very first one uh no i i put

3799
02:48:20,950 --> 02:48:18,160
up the first one you can't see the soles

3800
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:20,960
of the feet you're talking about the

3801
02:48:24,550 --> 02:48:23,279
second one are you talking about this

3802
02:48:26,870 --> 02:48:24,560
one

3803
02:48:29,429 --> 02:48:26,880
uh it was a close

3804
02:48:34,070 --> 02:48:29,439
yeah i don't see it here

3805
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:34,080
there right there um this one

3806
02:48:37,830 --> 02:48:35,920
uh the one that i'm looking at right now

3807
02:48:40,070 --> 02:48:37,840
which i know the feed is a little bit

3808
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:40,080
delayed oh

3809
02:48:43,349 --> 02:48:41,200
you went

3810
02:48:44,389 --> 02:48:43,359
okay i think you're on it i i'm assuming

3811
02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:44,399
you're on it

3812
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:45,279
um

3813
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:46,800
i mean look at the

3814
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:48,880
i mean doesn't that does that not look

3815
02:48:53,030 --> 02:48:51,600
like a soul of a shoe no you know not

3816
02:48:58,389 --> 02:48:53,040
not to me

3817
02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:58,399
that maybe that's like a a log sticking

3818
02:49:03,110 --> 02:48:59,920
up or something in front of the foot

3819
02:49:04,469 --> 02:49:03,120
yeah because um like i said

3820
02:49:06,230 --> 02:49:04,479
there are

3821
02:49:09,190 --> 02:49:06,240
um i i

3822
02:49:09,990 --> 02:49:09,200
also show these images here

3823
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:10,000
and

3824
02:49:14,230 --> 02:49:12,800
you kind of have to

3825
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:14,240
um

3826
02:49:23,830 --> 02:49:21,910
you know and so when you when you

3827
02:49:25,190 --> 02:49:23,840
consider

3828
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:25,200
um

3829
02:49:30,309 --> 02:49:27,920
the the patterson film

3830
02:49:32,790 --> 02:49:30,319
and and things uh

3831
02:49:34,389 --> 02:49:32,800
i mean that very possibly could be what

3832
02:49:35,590 --> 02:49:34,399
you're looking at

3833
02:49:38,309 --> 02:49:35,600
so

3834
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:38,319
yeah that does yeah that could be that

3835
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,640
could be and and to be clear i

3836
02:49:44,230 --> 02:49:42,479
i believe in bigfoot i mean there's

3837
02:49:45,910 --> 02:49:44,240
there's enough i mean it's been talked

3838
02:49:48,309 --> 02:49:45,920
about in every culture

3839
02:49:50,309 --> 02:49:48,319
around the world as far as history goes

3840
02:49:52,950 --> 02:49:50,319
back they're obviously not talking about

3841
02:49:55,349 --> 02:49:52,960
nothing at all right i'm sure there's

3842
02:49:57,510 --> 02:49:55,359
bigfoot out there but it's it's just

3843
02:49:59,349 --> 02:49:57,520
that one little thing in that patterson

3844
02:50:00,230 --> 02:49:59,359
footage that kind of

3845
02:50:03,750 --> 02:50:00,240
uh

3846
02:50:05,990 --> 02:50:03,760
i'm just not sure if that's

3847
02:50:08,070 --> 02:50:06,000
you know but then you made a really good

3848
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:08,080
case though like yeah i've seen those

3849
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:09,920
interviews with the special effects guys

3850
02:50:14,230 --> 02:50:11,920
and they're talking like man like i

3851
02:50:15,990 --> 02:50:14,240
especially back then like damn i wish i

3852
02:50:21,510 --> 02:50:16,000
could do something like that

3853
02:50:23,990 --> 02:50:21,520
you know um see that this is this is the

3854
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:24,000
this is where i just call

3855
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:26,319
um a spade a spade

3856
02:50:29,670 --> 02:50:28,240
and which is

3857
02:50:34,550 --> 02:50:29,680
when

3858
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:34,560
brought a planet to the apes and i

3859
02:50:40,469 --> 02:50:38,160
brought up a 2001 a space odyssey um how

3860
02:50:42,710 --> 02:50:40,479
about do you remember the six million

3861
02:50:45,429 --> 02:50:42,720
dollar man in bigfoot you remember that

3862
02:50:47,429 --> 02:50:45,439
you remember that when uh

3863
02:50:49,030 --> 02:50:47,439
six million six million dollar man

3864
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:49,040
encounter bigfoot they went in that time

3865
02:50:53,830 --> 02:50:50,640
tunnel thing

3866
02:50:57,110 --> 02:50:53,840
well think about how sasquatch uh how

3867
02:50:58,790 --> 02:50:57,120
bigfoot was portrayed in that right

3868
02:51:01,750 --> 02:50:58,800
it is

3869
02:51:04,710 --> 02:51:01,760
it's it's okay because it's it's it's a

3870
02:51:07,750 --> 02:51:04,720
story that's being told and we accept it

3871
02:51:10,870 --> 02:51:07,760
but if you go back and you look at that

3872
02:51:13,510 --> 02:51:10,880
um there's nothing fakier

3873
02:51:14,870 --> 02:51:13,520
than the original planet of the apes but

3874
02:51:17,269 --> 02:51:14,880
we didn't care

3875
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:17,279
because it was telling a story right and

3876
02:51:21,750 --> 02:51:19,920
then you go and you look at 2001 a space

3877
02:51:23,910 --> 02:51:21,760
odyssey and stanley kubrick did

3878
02:51:27,590 --> 02:51:23,920
everything he could

3879
02:51:30,309 --> 02:51:27,600
to make those uh those scenes

3880
02:51:31,830 --> 02:51:30,319
of uh the monolith and

3881
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:31,840
the you know the apes whatever you want

3882
02:51:33,830 --> 02:51:32,880
to call it

3883
02:51:34,870 --> 02:51:33,840
um

3884
02:51:37,190 --> 02:51:34,880
uh

3885
02:51:39,750 --> 02:51:37,200
as realistic as he could do it

3886
02:51:42,469 --> 02:51:39,760
and with all the money the best makeup

3887
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:42,479
the best costume people the best actors

3888
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:46,240
everything that he could do he did but

3889
02:51:52,630 --> 02:51:49,120
it was still fakie and we all laughed at

3890
02:51:53,670 --> 02:51:52,640
it but it was telling a story in cinema

3891
02:51:55,590 --> 02:51:53,680
okay

3892
02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:55,600
you know stanley we'll work with you on

3893
02:51:59,349 --> 02:51:57,600
this you're just trying to you know make

3894
02:52:02,150 --> 02:51:59,359
this a part of the story okay that's

3895
02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:02,160
great but then you go look at the

3896
02:52:09,349 --> 02:52:03,840
patterson film

3897
02:52:11,670 --> 02:52:09,359
that

3898
02:52:14,550 --> 02:52:11,680
it's not yeah it's not there it looks

3899
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:14,560
like oh there's way better

3900
02:52:18,950 --> 02:52:16,960
it's it's it's authentic

3901
02:52:21,750 --> 02:52:18,960
you know there's nothing you don't look

3902
02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:21,760
at the patterson film and go

3903
02:52:25,750 --> 02:52:24,240
you know you look at planet of the apes

3904
02:52:27,750 --> 02:52:25,760
and you go

3905
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:27,760
right you look at 2000 2001 again

3906
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:29,840
whatever you look at the six million

3907
02:52:33,349 --> 02:52:32,000
dollar man like what whatever who cares

3908
02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:33,359
you know whatever

3909
02:52:39,349 --> 02:52:36,800
um you know it's fake and then patterson

3910
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:39,359
in that film there is not there isn't a

3911
02:52:43,510 --> 02:52:42,560
giveaway there there isn't it doesn't

3912
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:43,520
exist

3913
02:52:51,830 --> 02:52:48,399
and uh this isn't

3914
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:51,840
uh let's just talk in an anthropologist

3915
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:54,080
way of speaking here

3916
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:56,399
those breasts

3917
02:52:59,910 --> 02:52:57,439
swing

3918
02:53:01,670 --> 02:52:59,920
naturally

3919
02:53:04,389 --> 02:53:01,680
right yeah

3920
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:04,399
they do they're not those aren't

3921
02:53:10,630 --> 02:53:07,120
breasts inside of a suit

3922
02:53:12,389 --> 02:53:10,640
and what so somebody made sure that

3923
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:12,399
you know that was part of the costume

3924
02:53:16,550 --> 02:53:14,720
that was they were just freely gonna

3925
02:53:18,550 --> 02:53:16,560
swing in the breeze

3926
02:53:20,389 --> 02:53:18,560
and i'm just saying i'm just

3927
02:53:22,150 --> 02:53:20,399
you know you look at that and you see

3928
02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:22,160
that and you go well

3929
02:53:28,630 --> 02:53:24,880
uh that that just looks real to me and

3930
02:53:31,670 --> 02:53:28,640
here's here's the other uh part for me

3931
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:31,680
um and this really isn't commented on

3932
02:53:34,870 --> 02:53:33,680
a lot out there gigi

3933
02:53:38,070 --> 02:53:34,880
but

3934
02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:38,080
you see muscles

3935
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:43,920
you see the things you know that that's

3936
02:53:47,830 --> 02:53:46,800
a that's a nude body walking like you

3937
02:53:49,990 --> 02:53:47,840
would see

3938
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:50,000
the muscles in

3939
02:53:57,510 --> 02:53:54,640
in in a lion or in an ape or in a dog

3940
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:57,520
you know if the same you know and that's

3941
02:54:02,710 --> 02:54:00,960
you see that and if that is a costume

3942
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:02,720
you're not gonna see the muscles like

3943
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,680
that

3944
02:54:06,710 --> 02:54:05,200
you're not you're just not gonna see

3945
02:54:08,950 --> 02:54:06,720
them ripple

3946
02:54:10,630 --> 02:54:08,960
and and flex

3947
02:54:12,550 --> 02:54:10,640
while uh

3948
02:54:15,750 --> 02:54:12,560
the walk is going on if that is some

3949
02:54:18,150 --> 02:54:15,760
thick and somebody had said gigi and

3950
02:54:20,790 --> 02:54:18,160
nobody talks about that i mean i see

3951
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:20,800
that like what is everybody blind here

3952
02:54:26,790 --> 02:54:22,800
you see the muscles

3953
02:54:30,630 --> 02:54:26,800
you see the natural muscles flex

3954
02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:30,640
um and and and here's the thing

3955
02:54:34,550 --> 02:54:31,840
there's been

3956
02:54:35,510 --> 02:54:34,560
three or four different

3957
02:54:38,790 --> 02:54:35,520
um

3958
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:38,800
makers that have come forward and said

3959
02:54:44,230 --> 02:54:40,560
that they made the costume for this

3960
02:54:46,710 --> 02:54:44,240
right well obviously four didn't

3961
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:46,720
it's possible that one did but that

3962
02:54:50,309 --> 02:54:49,439
means that three others are lying

3963
02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:50,319
okay

3964
02:54:55,030 --> 02:54:53,760
and one of the comments was that roger

3965
02:54:56,950 --> 02:54:55,040
patterson

3966
02:54:58,070 --> 02:54:56,960
made the costume

3967
02:55:01,269 --> 02:54:58,080
out of

3968
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:01,279
horse hide

3969
02:55:06,950 --> 02:55:04,800
now now think about that for a second

3970
02:55:10,070 --> 02:55:06,960
horse hide

3971
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:10,080
that must be the hottest stinkiest

3972
02:55:15,030 --> 02:55:12,880
nastiest thing that you can imagine but

3973
02:55:18,630 --> 02:55:15,040
i don't imag i don't see it as being

3974
02:55:19,990 --> 02:55:18,640
flexible and i don't see it and it must

3975
02:55:23,429 --> 02:55:20,000
weigh a lot

3976
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:23,439
and so now out of horse hide you've got

3977
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:26,000
flexing muscles coming through thick

3978
02:55:28,710 --> 02:55:27,840
horsehide skin

3979
02:55:30,630 --> 02:55:28,720
right

3980
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:30,640
and you've got muscles that can flex

3981
02:55:33,990 --> 02:55:32,880
through it no you've got swinging

3982
02:55:37,190 --> 02:55:34,000
breasts

3983
02:55:38,150 --> 02:55:37,200
uh on a horse hide suit no

3984
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:38,160
so

3985
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:41,279
these these things um i i just

3986
02:55:45,269 --> 02:55:42,960
constantly dismiss

3987
02:55:47,030 --> 02:55:45,279
and i no we can talk about the gate we

3988
02:55:48,790 --> 02:55:47,040
can talk about the arm movement we can

3989
02:55:51,190 --> 02:55:48,800
talk about the way the head turns you

3990
02:55:52,870 --> 02:55:51,200
can talk about all of that i

3991
02:55:54,630 --> 02:55:52,880
look at the muscles

3992
02:55:57,590 --> 02:55:54,640
and look at the boobs

3993
02:55:59,110 --> 02:55:57,600
and those are the two things to me that

3994
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:59,120
seem the most

3995
02:56:04,070 --> 02:56:01,200
natural here

3996
02:56:06,389 --> 02:56:04,080
and and you know me gigi you know i talk

3997
02:56:08,710 --> 02:56:06,399
smack you know i don't

3998
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:08,720
you know i want i want to debunk and i

3999
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:11,760
want to to keep my sanity with all of

4000
02:56:15,990 --> 02:56:13,840
this stuff i don't want to lose my mind

4001
02:56:17,830 --> 02:56:16,000
but when it comes to the giml

4002
02:56:21,510 --> 02:56:17,840
the patterson film

4003
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:21,520
my eyes tell me that i'm looking at

4004
02:56:25,670 --> 02:56:23,439
a real creature i'm not looking at

4005
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:25,680
somebody in an ape suit that's it that's

4006
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:28,560
what my eyes tell me

4007
02:56:32,950 --> 02:56:30,960
yeah i i mean i ultimately think so it's

4008
02:56:34,790 --> 02:56:32,960
just that that just kind of sometimes

4009
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,800
keeps me on the fence is the foot thing

4010
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:36,960
but another natural thing

4011
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:40,160
that uh i actually never noticed until

4012
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:41,520
um

4013
02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:43,520
uh i think it was duke that actually

4014
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:45,760
pointed this out to me was if you look

4015
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:48,000
at some of those high res photos you'll

4016
02:56:52,870 --> 02:56:50,640
notice a little strip of hair that's

4017
02:56:56,389 --> 02:56:52,880
kind of ruffled on the legs

4018
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:56,399
from the arm swinging back and forth and

4019
02:57:00,710 --> 02:56:58,880
rubbing against the leg you can actually

4020
02:57:02,309 --> 02:57:00,720
see that in the pictures which gives

4021
02:57:03,269 --> 02:57:02,319
even more credence

4022
02:57:05,269 --> 02:57:03,279
uh

4023
02:57:07,830 --> 02:57:05,279
you know to the film being legit

4024
02:57:09,750 --> 02:57:07,840
and uh nobody ever brings that up either

4025
02:57:10,950 --> 02:57:09,760
uh but yeah he brought that up on time

4026
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:10,960
and i thought that was a really good

4027
02:57:14,710 --> 02:57:12,560
point as well

4028
02:57:16,950 --> 02:57:14,720
yep yep yep there you go you're the

4029
02:57:18,550 --> 02:57:16,960
you're the best gg i miss you man when

4030
02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:18,560
was the last time i seems like i just

4031
02:57:23,590 --> 02:57:22,319
saw you somewhere where did i see you i

4032
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:23,600
think uh

4033
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:25,760
but conscious life was probably the last

4034
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,000
one okay all right so we did see each

4035
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:30,479
other this year

4036
02:57:35,030 --> 02:57:32,800
yeah are we is laughlin happening again

4037
02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:35,040
this year uh

4038
02:57:40,070 --> 02:57:37,600
no not that i know of

4039
02:57:41,830 --> 02:57:40,080
i think oh really i know uh i think

4040
02:57:45,670 --> 02:57:41,840
paula harris

4041
02:57:47,750 --> 02:57:45,680
is uh doing a conference her last one

4042
02:57:51,830 --> 02:57:47,760
um i'm not sure the dates but i think

4043
02:57:53,429 --> 02:57:51,840
it's in november or december um uh i'll

4044
02:57:56,469 --> 02:57:53,439
find out though but

4045
02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:56,479
i i i i don't

4046
02:58:01,670 --> 02:57:59,200
think i am attending that

4047
02:58:04,469 --> 02:58:01,680
but maybe i will it's her last one and

4048
02:58:06,309 --> 02:58:04,479
i'll see if i can arrange shooting uh

4049
02:58:08,070 --> 02:58:06,319
those shooting dates around that and

4050
02:58:08,870 --> 02:58:08,080
i'll i'll go to laughlin just to hang

4051
02:58:10,309 --> 02:58:08,880
out

4052
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,319
but um

4053
02:58:13,670 --> 02:58:12,560
i'm not working so it'd be fun to just

4054
02:58:16,070 --> 02:58:13,680
go and

4055
02:58:18,389 --> 02:58:16,080
and hang out with everybody so are you

4056
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:18,399
gonna go

4057
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:19,279
uh

4058
02:58:23,269 --> 02:58:21,120
i mean if the whole crew is gonna go

4059
02:58:24,950 --> 02:58:23,279
then yeah yeah and uh

4060
02:58:27,269 --> 02:58:24,960
but if not uh i'll definitely i'll

4061
02:58:29,349 --> 02:58:27,279
certainly be at conscious life next year

4062
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:29,359
well i'm hosting i'm hosting that so

4063
02:58:33,030 --> 02:58:31,359
i'll see you there so

4064
02:58:35,030 --> 02:58:33,040
and things are looking really

4065
02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:35,040
interesting for conscious life expo i

4066
02:58:37,590 --> 02:58:36,319
can't wait to start making these

4067
02:58:39,110 --> 02:58:37,600
announcements

4068
02:58:40,230 --> 02:58:39,120
i already know who's going to be there

4069
02:58:42,710 --> 02:58:40,240
and i'm like

4070
02:58:45,190 --> 02:58:42,720
man yeah it's going to be great

4071
02:58:47,190 --> 02:58:45,200
well gigi you're the absolute very best

4072
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:47,200
i left everybody on hold just so i could

4073
02:58:51,349 --> 02:58:49,359
talk to my old friend you haven't been

4074
02:58:52,389 --> 02:58:51,359
on the show

4075
02:58:53,910 --> 02:58:52,399
geez

4076
02:58:55,590 --> 02:58:53,920
it's been a few years since you called

4077
02:58:57,110 --> 02:58:55,600
in to fade to black my man how's your

4078
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:57,120
show doing

4079
02:59:02,389 --> 02:59:00,160
oh oh it's doing great man you know uh

4080
02:59:05,269 --> 02:59:02,399
can't complain uh everything's going

4081
02:59:07,110 --> 02:59:05,279
good man uh appreciate you asking and

4082
02:59:08,630 --> 02:59:07,120
yeah i haven't called in quite some time

4083
02:59:10,389 --> 02:59:08,640
and um

4084
02:59:11,830 --> 02:59:10,399
but uh yeah it's good to talk to you

4085
02:59:17,269 --> 02:59:11,840
good to

4086
02:59:19,429 --> 02:59:17,279
and uh yeah we'll we'll hang out soon

4087
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,439
for sure you're the very best gg behave

4088
02:59:24,070 --> 02:59:21,760
and be well

4089
02:59:27,429 --> 02:59:24,080
all right right back at you talk to you

4090
02:59:29,830 --> 02:59:27,439
that's uh gigi gigi from shift happens

4091
02:59:32,070 --> 02:59:29,840
and uh caught me by surprise with that

4092
02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:32,080
phone call thank you so much gigi

4093
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:33,520
and uh

4094
02:59:37,349 --> 02:59:35,279
yeah

4095
02:59:39,670 --> 02:59:37,359
i da

4096
02:59:44,550 --> 02:59:39,680
i love the patterson film

4097
02:59:46,309 --> 02:59:44,560
i i truly wish the ufo community

4098
02:59:50,870 --> 02:59:46,319
had that

4099
02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:50,880
think about that

4100
02:59:54,790 --> 02:59:53,680
it would it would certainly just be case

4101
02:59:55,670 --> 02:59:54,800
closed

4102
03:00:00,870 --> 02:59:55,680
and

4103
03:00:03,349 --> 03:00:00,880
you know when it when it comes to

4104
03:00:06,550 --> 03:00:03,359
bigfoot it's like i i am

4105
03:00:07,830 --> 03:00:06,560
i'm an absolute hypocritical paradox of

4106
03:00:09,349 --> 03:00:07,840
myself

4107
03:00:12,550 --> 03:00:09,359
um because i'm trying to figure out

4108
03:00:14,870 --> 03:00:12,560
these answers too i i i you know and so

4109
03:00:18,230 --> 03:00:14,880
why isn't it case closed for me

4110
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:18,240
if if the patterson film is there well

4111
03:00:23,190 --> 03:00:20,640
there's too many unanswered questions

4112
03:00:25,670 --> 03:00:23,200
and i love the journey this is fade to

4113
03:00:29,030 --> 03:00:25,680
black i am your host jimmy church that

4114
03:00:31,269 --> 03:00:29,040
will conclude night one here on fade to

4115
03:00:32,870 --> 03:00:31,279
black of our squatch week

4116
03:00:35,590 --> 03:00:32,880
want to remind everybody what's going on

4117
03:00:37,590 --> 03:00:35,600
tomorrow night that's because it's

4118
03:00:40,710 --> 03:00:37,600
duke sullivan

4119
03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:40,720
of world bigfoot radio

4120
03:00:44,469 --> 03:00:42,160
it's gonna be a great night tomorrow

4121
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:44,479
night i'll see everybody

4122
03:00:50,550 --> 03:00:47,760
right here on fade to black also don't

4123
03:00:52,550 --> 03:00:50,560
forget wednesday night

4124
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:52,560
william munsford

4125
03:00:59,269 --> 03:00:55,359
squatch week here on fade to black

4126
03:01:03,269 --> 03:00:59,279
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4127
03:01:05,110 --> 03:01:03,279
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4128
03:01:06,950 --> 03:01:05,120
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4129
03:01:09,750 --> 03:01:06,960
announcers are steve hart of gene patel

4130
03:01:12,309 --> 03:01:09,760
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4131
03:01:14,630 --> 03:01:12,319
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4132
03:01:16,950 --> 03:01:14,640
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4133
03:01:18,830 --> 03:01:16,960
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4134
03:01:22,230 --> 03:01:18,840
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4135
03:01:24,070 --> 03:01:22,240
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4136
03:01:26,469 --> 03:01:24,080
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4137
03:01:28,150 --> 03:01:26,479
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4138
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:28,160
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4139
03:01:31,429 --> 03:01:30,000
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4140
03:01:32,950 --> 03:01:31,439
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4141
03:01:35,269 --> 03:01:32,960
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4142
03:01:38,230 --> 03:01:35,279
church until tomorrow night for squash

4143
03:01:41,349 --> 03:01:38,240
week night two

4144
03:01:46,520 --> 03:01:41,359
i want everybody to be safe